The Oil Drum

The guy (Robert Kennedy, Jr.) should know that his prominent NIMBY-ism will be used by the Rush Limbaugh ("environmental wackos") crowd to defeat far more than this one project!

I've already seen to generalization that "environmentalists" are all hypocrites because they don't like wind power ... this just confirms the worst stereotype held by the most reactionary member of Rush's crew.

Now you finally understand that Casey did die for a "noble" cause.
He died for them, the "nobility".
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It's pretty ridiculous that he's opposing wind farms but not doing everything he can to oppose coal, which is pretty much the worse of the worse.

Hey, the senate is going to hold hearings on gas prices in a few weeks.

We're saved!

Scientists have recently discovered that the highest priced "gas" emanates from Washington D.C. :-)

Hmm, how did I post that twice? Or did I?

We have moved beyond NIMBY (Not in My Back Yard), and have moved into an even more extreeme battle cry of BANANA - Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone. From LNG terminals to new Nuclear plants to oil and gas exploration on California or Florida coasts; no one wants to even consider changing the status quo or putting all our energy options on the table. Almost all new energy sources that will replace declines in oil and gas will have undesireable impacts of some kind. We need to be realistic about how deep a problem we are in and reconsider if views of windmills might be more desireable than more global conflict over shrinking oil and gas supplies. But this is one of those uncomfortable discussions that I see little political will by anyone in power to bring up.

I'm symphetic to the Not-in-my-backyard philosophy. We need more of it.

What is the alternative? The usual philosophy: F*ck up other people's backyards, so that we can live our wasteful lifestyles.

The last straw was an wind energy bureaucrat interviewed by Grist magazine who railed against NIMBYism, then confessed his addiction to long airplane flights to beautiful far-off locations.

Right now we in America are such energy pigs -- let's get some serious conservation and efficiency projects going, before we start mucking up the countryside.

nuff_said wrote: "Almost all new energy sources that will replace declines in oil and gas will have undesireable impacts of some kind." REPLY: except conservation, re-localization, living simpler lifestyles, improved efficiency of all our processess.... all much more cost-effective than generating new energy. All seemingly off the radar screen.

Amen Brother Bart. I agree that re-localization, living simpler lifestyles, improved efficiency along with developing alternative enrgy sources is the real solution. I hope we can get more of our fellow "energy pigs" to join in.

Downsizing our lifestyles, being more concious of how we use energy, and developing alternatives, requires personal changes. Most people resist change and don't embrace it. I bet people will complain more about changing their lifestyles and transportation habbits than about the view being obscured by windmills. I view RK Jr.'s objections as an ominous sign of how much outcry there will be as gasoline and home heating costs continue to rise and the pain is even deeper than the view changing on the Cape.

Ick. As long as I suppose as long as they put the windmills in Southie or steal some 86 year old African-American woman's land in New London for them and not spoil the views of poor Bobby and Muffy and Jewels it's okay.

The RFC,Jr Nantucket comment is a right-wing talking point probably over a year old.

I'm switching over to the new site, but to clean up some loose ends:

RFK Jr. is a dickhead for opposing the Cape Wind program. The turbines will be about 4 inches high on the horizon from the beach.