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Prof. Goose on March 3, 2006 - 4:38pm Permalink | Subthread | Comments top
Bob, seriously man...this can't happen.  Way too long.  What would be better is for you to get an online space of your own and then provide a link.  We can't have comments that long, it's not the purpose of the space.
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totoneila on March 3, 2006 - 5:34pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Sorry, Go ahead and delete!  I can email to anybody interested!  I just thought I would save everybody a lot of googling time--I had over 100 hours in this essay.

Bob Shaw in Phx,AZ  Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?

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Prof. Goose on March 3, 2006 - 5:42pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Bob, nonononono!  I think the time you spent is great and the information very very very very valuable.  I just wish you'd get a blog, put it there, and then link it!  totoneila.blogspot is available!  

(I'm encouraging you...I like what you did.  It just was a blogpost (if not a book), not a comment!  That's all!)

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totoneila on March 3, 2006 - 6:42pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Hey Goose,

Help, I am confused.  I posted a variation of this same post on the forum Yahoo:AlasBabylon with no problem #24085.  The moderator, the Great Scott, had no problem with its length, and he too was impressed with its content.  It is free for anybody to read if they join [also free], but I cannot make an autolink to it.  Other AB posters have included different articles that are much, much longer than mine-- no problem.  Is there a technical difference in equipment & software between these forums, or just a different social norm of netiquette culture?  Sometimes I feel like a stranger in a strange land on TOD, help me conform.  :]  Sorry to make you have to do that work, but I thought I would save everybody the gobs of research that I did.  

I just never thought I needed a personal blog as long as my articles are available in the AB archives.  I have got hundreds of them.  I have even seen some of my postings reposted on Italian websites and plagiarized elsewhere.

Clue me in, if you can.

Bob Shaw in Phx,AZ-->DUMBER THAN YEAST!

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Prof. Goose on March 3, 2006 - 7:23pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
It's just that YahooGroups are a lot different in their workings...entire posts can be distinct emails.  In here, we're trying to have conversations/discourse about a topic.  A really long comment like that completely hijacks other commenters' ability to discuss what was posted, making your comment the subject of the comment!

What I would suggest on these kinds of topics is, in the comments, post an executive summary that interests people, then link that material you want them to read posted elsewhere (again, perhaps on your blog that you're going to set up today for free over on blogger (because you should!), because work like yours is really good, and should be out there influencing the discourse!)  You could post your best work on your blog that way, and then it's outside of the AB archives so that others can hear your ideas.

Again, this is one of those "unwritten rules"...it's just that one commenter running the comments usually just pisses people off, then we get emails in the TOD inbox (as we did today), then I have to do something like this.  :)

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totoneila on March 3, 2006 - 7:45pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Thxs Goose,

Okey-Dokey, I will flail away at creating a blog after doing some more lurking first. See-ya Gang!

Bob Shaw in Phx,AZ  Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?

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holyshit on March 4, 2006 - 4:00am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Prof. Goose;
You talked about posting links and here is a
good one about snow and ice and guess what?
It's free. www.nsidc.colorado.edu/
enjoy.:)
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Leanan on March 3, 2006 - 7:41pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
I agree with PG.  You need your own Web site or blog.  Posting a long e-mail to a mailing list or Yahoogroup is a much different thing than posting one to a blog like this.  

There are many sites that offer free Web space or blogs.  If you post your articles to your own Web site or blog, you can post links to them.  Much better than dumping War and Peace in the middle of thread here, or forcing people to join a Yahoogroup. (Many people will not sign up with Yahoo anyway, due to their privacy policy.)

Personally, I like OurMedia.org.  It offers not only blogging, but file upload for text, audio, video, and image files.  It's a bit slow to upload sometimes, but download is usually fine.  And it allows remote linking.  

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Mykobar on March 4, 2006 - 4:24am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Seriously, people, keep the posts to a decent size. Use links. It takes forever to scroll through some of this stuff after you've already read it three times. Let the editors post the long pieces.
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veganmaster on March 4, 2006 - 9:29pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Just a useful tip: using Firefox browser I use the find feature (ctrl f) and put it "[n" and thus it brings you to new posts only, which makes it so much easier to follow along!
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Donal on March 6, 2006 - 7:55am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Thanks, that is saving me so much time.
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joule on March 3, 2006 - 6:09pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
I found your lengthy tutorial on Antarctica fascinating. While it may be too long for the format and purpose of TOD, I would encourage you to continue with the good work. A blog of your own would be a great idea.

I learned may things from your post, and now am a whole lot smarter about Antarctica. Quite a wierd place - almost sounds like another planet! It's hard to picture a temperature of -129 degrees F along with hurricane-force winds. Due to its shear size, it sure seems like Antarctica has the potential for affecting a lot of things 'up here'.

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eric blair on March 4, 2006 - 8:46am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Bob, seriously man...this can't happen.  Way too long.

Why was it 'bad'?   It was great content.  Compelling.   Perhaps totally wrong and other events (say a global themonuclear war or the sun becoming a red giant) would render the eventual removal of ice and water level a non-issue.

Why not copy it and make it a topic for discussion all by itself as its own bad self.    Natural disasters/crop failures/et la are now made less painful because of the release of the energy of stored sunlight.  The 'worse case' outlined in that post would effect some nations by removing them from the globe, and other nations would have to have 1/2 of their population move.  A bigger issue would be the placing underewater of all that costal buildings and production capacity.  So there IS a peak oil tie to such an event.

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