I'm sorry, Prole. The only thing this proves is either your ignorance about Abu Ghraib or overwhelming partisanship. At least that's what I think. If you want to have a start-from-scratch, real debate/conversation about this issue - then please - start right here.

I'll keep it exclusive. Just me and you. If you need some help, I'll let you have Angry Chimp and AlistairC. Trust me, you will need them, they are good. I'll take Jack Greene to fact-check me. Other than that, I think I can prove myself.

Here. Read Bing West's article in latest Altantic Monthly. (C'mon fishies, fall for the bait, fall for the bait).

So damned if we do, and damned if we don't?

Fail to prosecute those who made the infractions and we are the worst human rights violators in the world!

Prosecute them, and it turns out that they are just scapegoats for the super secret shadow government!

It would be inconceivable to think that maybe, just maybe, we happened to have a collection of psychotic bored off their ass nitwit MPs who thought it might be fun to put these prisoners through some good old fashion college hazing, and have a real life edition of Jackass using Iraqi prisoners.  And by the way before it gets misconstrued, thats not an excuse for their behavior, its an indictment of it, and of the idiocy the American Public has for watching sadistic morons on TV and thinking its "cool".