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I found this article interesting. Hybrid owners are allowed to use the HOV lanes - and they are infuriating the other drivers. Why? Because they go so slow.
Maybe we don't need devices that automatically limit vehicle speed, or platoons of extra cops...
Stimulus-response, stimulus-response...
If you want to get better gas mileage, follow a hybrid driver.
This is a really great idea! We could even have an idiot light version. A "Poor Fuel Economy" light that goes on during situations where you are getting worse mpg than normal, for whatever reason. Maybe this could be a three LED "MPG" light, with red for poor, yellow for normal, green for good.
This is the sort of thing a behavioral economist would come up with. With just a tiny bit more information, we can tell the motorist when they are wasting money. Since people hate to waste money, they would have a strong incentive to keep the yellow or green light on.
Seriously, this kind of feedback can't be expensive, why aren't more automakers including it? (I say 'more' because from googling around I see that a) it isn't a new idea at all and b) some non-hybrid cars already include it, I know my friends BMW does and it's six years old)
I wanna buy one for my civic, if I find an aftermarket source of any kind I'll let y'all know.
BTW, my bike computer says I get "excellent mileage" (say that with a Rain Man voice)
Haha - years ago I was riding in a friend's Lincoln Continential (one of the largest cars around before the SUV craze), and it had such a thing. We were driving back from something one night, and he looks down and says "Look - we are getting 39 mpg". Of course we were going downhill at the time....
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/showCustom-0/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2008961/c-10101/Nty -1/p-2008961/Ntx-mode+matchallpartial/N-10101/tf-Browse/s-10101/Ntk-AllTextSearchGroup?Ntt=miles
MILES-PER-GALLON GAUGE
For all cars, trucks, vans and RVs
Miles-per-gallon scale shows actual gas mileage as you drive
Easy to install on or under dash
Slash your fuel costs with this easy-to-read illuminated fuel economy-performance gauge. Color-coded zones tell you when your engine is producing the most power for the least gas. Approx. 3-1/2" diam. face. With mounting housing. Complete with Operating/Installation Manual.
Another "pain free" change could be that manufacturers are required to published detailed consumption graphs - ie consumption in various gears / speeds. Many people are not aware of the massive increase in fuel use which occurs between 50 and 75.
This may be academic - once consumers begin to feel real pain they may demand these improvements.
Very true. I've even seen Prius drivers comparing scores at red lights.
I get much better economy in the diesel when I hold constant speed up hills, accelerate over the crest and then drop to neutral to coast down. It would be even more different in a hybrid. Any specification should probably be written with hybrids or EV's in mind, as everything else is going to be obsolete in a decade or so but we'll be stuck with the legacy standard.
(And like I said on another thread, here's an endorsement for the 55 mph speed limit from someone who by nature much prefers the speedlimitless conditions of the German Autobahn. Chafing as I always have under speed limits, I really never thought that day would come!)
The ScanGauge works on any gas or diesel OBDII compliant vehicle. This means any car sold in the US after 1996 should work fine. Installation is a snap - just plug it into the diagnostic socket and take a few minutes to set it up.
Check out www.scangauge.com for more information. I notice they are sold out right now. I paid $129 for mine and it's saved me a bundle. I was heading up the grapevine toward LA outside of Bakersfield when I lost most of my power. By checking the ScanGauge I saw that my MAP (Manifold Air Pressure) reading was low. Turns out the mechanism that changes the pitch of my turbo vanes had gotten stuck. I reached in and released it. There's no other way I could have made that diagnosis without having Vag-Com software, a reader interface, and a laptop computer.
I also got an indication of trouble on my dashboard display that indicated the glowplugs were malfunctioning. The ScanGauge reported an error code that turned out to be related to a malfunction in the injection pump. Having that read out at the VW dealer would have cost $80. Then they would have gotten me for $1800 for a rebuilt injection pump! As it was I bought an injection pump on eBay for $377 and installed it myself.
The ScanGauge isn't without its flaws but overall I consider it a good value.
I don't imagine most people would use it to the extent that I have, but I think it's worth it just for the MPG display.
In the spirit of full disclosure, I have no financial interest in ScanGauge.
Thanks for all the info!
I normally drive 65 in one of the right lanes and get 50+ mpg. When I get in the carpool lane I might go 65-75, depending on whether anyone is catching me.
I don't think having a hybrid is an excuse for bad, impolite, driving.
There are a lot of drivers who don't care. You could have it display the mileage in 6 inch numbers, and it wouldn't matter at all.
Besides, I think with more awareness, there will be a tipping point of sorts, where the fast suddenly isn't cool any more.
Even an idiot light - green, yellow, red - indicating if you were sucking lots of gas would be useful feedback. Sure, some would ignore it (the folks that aren't exactly pinching pennies to begin with, for starters) and some cars would never get a meter (like the 76 pontiac I was stuck behind yesterday) but it could still be a very useful tool and can't cost much. Who knows, we just might learn somethin'
I do occasionally see how well I can do, but I can't say I pay attention to it most of the time.
http://www.ecobc.org/NewsToday/2005/12/TodaysNews1741/index.cfm