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Don in Colorado on April 28, 2006 - 2:47am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Well, then we should just evacuate the gulf oil platforms for the summer as a precaution.
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totoneila on April 28, 2006 - 3:30am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Hello Don in Colorado,

Thxs for responding.  Yes, if it gets really bad in the GoM, we can send the oilworkers to look for oil in the offshore Artic-- see this shocking chart of how ice-free it is becoming:

http://www.physorg.com/preview63552889.html

I often wonder if the effects from Global Warming will accelerate faster and create more problems for us than Peakoil.  Consider this next link where scientists have now discovered huge rivers running underneath Antarctic glacial icecaps.
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British scientists have discovered rivers the size of the Thames in London flowing hundreds of miles under the Antarctica ice shelf by examining small changes in elevation, observed by ESA's ERS-2 satellite, in the surface of the oldest, thickest ice in the region, according to an article published in Nature this week.

The finding, which came as a great surprise to the scientists, challenges the widely held assumption that subglacial lakes evolved in isolated conditions for several millions of years and raises the possibility that large floods of water from deep within the ice's interior may have generated huge floods that reached the ocean in the past and may do so again.
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http://www.physorg.com/news64754411.html

Bob Shaw in Phx,Az  Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?

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Don in Colorado on April 28, 2006 - 11:54am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Yeah, Bob, I've read about the under-ice rivers and the sub-glacial lakes that might flood into some place -- like the gulf stream in the Atlantic -- turning places like Britain into Lapland.

At this point, all I think you can do is watch in horror ... I don't think TPTB are thinking earth marines and everybody up here is still driving Dodge RAM diesels and swearing at the oil companies ...

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got2surf on April 28, 2006 - 2:25pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Howdy Bob,
love your writings.  I've been thinking about this lately.  When you say "what will create more problems for 'us ', PO or GCC?  Well, ask someone from NO, or a pacific islander.  I think the effects will be uneven.  If you live in cyclone/hurricane country and aren't really part of the oil economy, then its climate change.  Or a nomadic ice-hunter - they're experiencing TEOTWA They KI - RIGHT NOW.  If you live in suburban USA and drive an SUV, climate change is minor, for now, but not PO.  And if you're a rich bastard with a big secure compound, you won't feel either in your lifetime.
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totoneila on April 28, 2006 - 4:33pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Hello Got2Surf,

Excellent point!  I fear the Phx leaders are ignorantly synchronizing both dire effects to hit the Valley of the Sun at the same time.  The recent addition of 500,000 new commuters adds to the Asphalt Wonderland of Sprawl and the heat island effects, and the continuing drought will eventually make it a dead-even price race between a gallon of water and a gallon of gasoline.  Kunstler and Jay Hanson have warned for years that the Southwest US is doomed postPeak. Oh, joy!  =(

Bob Shaw in Phx,AZ  Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?

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tom deplume on April 28, 2006 - 2:42pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Ice under the pressure of a mile or two of glacier can melt at temps as low as -20F.
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totoneila on April 28, 2006 - 4:48pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Hello Tom Deplume,

Thxs for the addition of more good news! =(

Bob Shaw in Phx,Az  Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?

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