Would you like to see some two dozen scientifically reputable peer-reviewed articles listed in accepted referance form?

Or do you prefer to go on with meaningless handwaving, snide remarks and armchair theorizing?

In other words, do you want to genuinely learn something of value?

I think I've given the source for every number I've provided as a URL.  I think that's pretty much standard form on TOD.

If you have better data, ideally with a URL to provide easy access to all of us, that would be great.

My sad experience has been that about 98% of URLs are unreliable and most are worse than useless. What we often have on the Internet is a Reign of Error.

Indeed, my opinion is that excess posting of links tends to make people stupid.

I am extremely selective in what I choose to study. Most of my secondary research is done in libraries and with the aid of reference librarians. That is why I have so much accurate information and so little garbage in my memory.

By the way, I have been home brewing ethanol from the age of fourteen and have been doing small-scale replications of some of the key research papers for decades.

Expertly written and edited books and peer-reviewed reputable scientific publications is the way to get an increaingly accurate and complete world view, in my opinion.

I rarely post links, for the reasons indicated above. I presume you pay taxes: Some of this goes for libraries. Why not use them. Librarians are some of my favorite people; they know where the good stuff is and are delighted to help you find it. And who knows, you might meet somebody interesting and intelligent in a library--happens to me more than once a month.

BTW, I keep in touch with chemists who have advanced degrees and who keep up in their fields. How many chemists do you know well enough to call by their first names?

"Expertly written and edited books" at least have ISBNs. Care to share a list?
Thank you. List posted below on this thread.
I keep in touch with chemists who have advanced degrees and who keep up in their fields. How many chemists do you know well enough to call by their first names?

Chemical engineers rather than chemists have much of the knowledge needed to analyze the EROEI of ethanol.  RR is one (graduate level research in ethanol at the second best ChemE department in Texas).  (I was in the best ChemE Department in Texas and transfered to BioMedE, then my tenured professor & I resigned to chase a dream; a liquid membrane blood oxygenator using liquid perfluorocarbons).

Don, you've made an interesting line of defense, but unfortunately one that indicts not only me, but TOD, and everyone who has ever published a number here.

I am really loathe to get into a credentials battle, in an obvious logical fallacy (an appeal to authority) but since everyone else is doing it ;-), I'll mention that I have a chem degree myself.

Ultimately the value of the web is created and reinforced when we can point, and link with URLs, to things we find which are true.  That builds value (and google rank) for those that come after us.  It is a community process.

And of course, science itself is moving on-line:

http://www.plos.org/

Scientists themselves coverse with URLs.