Here's a quick search on the key word gas tax here on TOD. More coming
I'm sorry to be negative, but a gas tax is last year's idea. You don't need a gas tax when gas is getting more expensive all the time on its own. Maybe if gas falls back to $1.50 or $2.00 it is time to reconsider the gas tax. But not if gas is $3 and $4 and $5.

The commodities markets seem to have woken up to the reality of future oil shortages. Even with a relative glut of supply today, prices are high on the assumption of shortages in the future. That's exactly how markets are supposed to work and it is one reason we have them. The result is that even if the geopolitical situation improves, oil prices are likely to stay high, making gas high, and continuing to encourage conservation and development of alternative resources.

In short, we are on a good track right now. We have the effect of the gas tax but it is coming from market mechanisms, making it much more efficient and economically rational.

I disagree. Simply put, a gas tax helps us stay ahead of the game and provides a cushion for society to use the money collected to offset the negative effects.

Alternately, if we were to remove all the current subsidies to oil and gas, that would be an even better first step.

I somewhat agree with Halfin and peakguy, which makes me feel both clean and dirty at the same time.

We should be advocating removal of subsidies to oil and gas companies long before we push for an increased gas tax. I suspect that if all the direct subsidies were removed, and some of the (many many many) indirect subsidies the market would be much more likely to take care of itself.

In the current political climate, this is an easier sell than making gas prices even more expensive through taxation.

Only with that log burning in the fire would I throw in the much bigger and greener increased gas tax log.

I agree, a gas tax now is probably too little, too late.

Hitting the average Escalade driver in the well-padded wallet with an extra buck (or two, or three) will have little effect on their consumption

A real supply shortage* -- with gas lines, ten gallon limits and odd-even fill-up rules -- will hurt them where it really, really, hurts, in the pocket watch.

A month of waiting in a gas lines is a great inducement to consumption adjustment.

I wonder how long it will be before the "Will wait in gas lines for food" signs appear.

*Say if Saudi Arabia or Iran decide to apply pressure to force an Israeli cease fire by cutting oil exports.

Hm, I don't really think so. In US gasoline is still a relatively minor item in the total cost of owning a car - far behind the initial cost, and in most cases quite behind maintainance&insurance.

The rationale behind higher gas tax would be primarily to cover the externalities associated with oil consumption -  military expenses, pollution, traffic, suburban sprawl and associated waste of resources for land, roads etc. Secondary we have high level of uncertanty within the oil market about the true state of reserves and prospective production which makes the market quite inefficient in pricing in future scarcity.

In all cases gas tax will buy us time for the mitigation response and will make it smoother. Maybe it is true that politically it is too late to impose it, but this is a different problem.

I think the gas tax is politically impossible with the Bush administration in office for another 2½ years and especially before the dire nature of the current crisis is really apparent.  It is very unlikely that a venture capitalist would want to take that bitter pill to the current powers that be.  

I think he would want to champion some technical fix, something for which people will think he has some credibility.  Something like Robert's biodiesel from algae or wind power.  He might be willing to champion a new generation of nuclear power plants that will inevitably be a big part of our mitigation but which is still pretty politically radioactive.  Or possibly put money into developing new battery or fuel cell technology.

I agree. To wait for a enterprise person to advocate for whatever tax there is, is not very productive idea.

A possible exception would be if the capitalist was not advocating it from a point of view of a seeking for a successful enterprise, but because he is concerned about the long-term stability of the system as a whole. A rich, successful VC like Khoshla may very well fit the latter category if he wants to, but his support for ethanol (the limitations of which I'm sure he is aware of) makes me think that he doesn't.

A gas tax is needed which is engineered to ensure that regardless of the underlying cost of crude, the price to the consumer will steadily increase.  This would provide the predictability required to spur investment in alternatives, and a permanent change in attitudes to consumption.  Revenue raised can be used to mitigate the effects of rising prices on vurnable sections of the community.

How to make it politically acceptable - that is the real challenge.

A better way to frame the debate would be to relentlessly pursue the huge disproportion between government support for fossil fuel industries vs. alternative energy industries. Have you seen the chart of newly installed wind power capacity in the US (somewhere at awea.org)? It looks like a roller-coaster because there is a tax credit for wind power which has to be renewed by Congress every 2 years. Consequently, no-one installs new capacity in the "renewal years" since they don't know if they'll get the tax credit. That's insane! The tax credit should be extended to at least 5 years so that the environment becomes a bit stable - the Spanish model of a minimum rate at which utilities must buy renewable power might also work. It sure does work for Spain.

In short, the general public is starting to realize that renewables will be crucial in energy independence. This realization can and should be leveraged to adress the imbalances in government support for various energy industries. Shifting support from Big Oil to renewables can be presented as a revenue-neutral and labor-market-neutral policy that is very hard to refute. Another angle is that it's a fitting "punishment" for Big Oil's "excess profits".

Do you have anything like the UK Annual 'road fund licence'? Basically a tax on the vehicle itself.

This could be linked to engine capacity / mpg / carbon emissions. The bigger the engine etc , the higher the tax.

This has started to happen in the UK , but with minimal effect yet as the difference is not that great in tax rates and if you can afford a large 4wd, you can afford the tax difference.

One side effect however is that it bites impoverished hill farmers who need land rovers more than it bites a 'Chelsea Tractor' driver.

I can talk from my experience here in Argentina (and I know that's like comparing pigs to bicycles).

Gas has always had an important tax here, in fact every fossil fuel.

Today, %60 of what you pay for filling up your tank is gas tax. I think this follows the general pattern in Europe.

We  "achieved energy independence"  more than 15 years ago and today Argentina is a mild oil exporter and our cars are small just like the Europeans.
That's a different pattern of what you could see in México or Venezuela (comparing apples to apples this time) where, as far as I know, gas taxes are not so high and cars are bigger and not so efficient.

Of course, timing issues regarding the USA case can not be ignored.

Regarding the "efficiency and rationality" of markets, the idea of having your A/C on while you're not at home, driving thousands of miles each month to get to your work, using SUVs to get to the grocery store around the corner, are IMHO very wasteful behaviors. This has been known for years in Europe, where energy taxes have played an important role.

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Fernando

Forget taxes. If the tripling of gas prices in the last 5 years hasn't lead to significant redutions then a piddly little tax will do nothing but put an extra burden on the working poor. Only rationing of petroleum products is gauranteed to reduce consumption. The credit card readers on gas pumps can be used to ration sales. The Internet can be used for the trading of rations.
If you favor having the government support conservation efforts and production of alternative fuels then it should come from returning to the income tax rates of the 90s. Bring the troops home would free up hundreds of billions of dollars for healthier uses.
Yeah, rationing is a good idea. If every person (regardless of whether they had a car or not) had a ration, it would be fair. Rations could be pooled, for car sharers or families, for example. Rations can be traded in whole or part. Rations can be trimmed each year, to ensure a lower consumption over time, perhaps in line with production decreases, and leaving a surplus for sustainability projects to prepare for the future.

Tony

you speak my mind,  except that the priority should be ending military drain on oil/gas and then ration the public ..
Mexico and Venezuela produce their own oil and have enough for export; Argentina does not.
OIL
Overview
With around 2.7 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, Argentina is a significant player in the Latin American oil market. After peaking in 1998 at 916,000 barrels per day (bbl/d), Argentine oil production has steadily declined; nevertheless, in 2004, the country was still the third-largest oil producer in South America at 692,600 bbl/d. Argentina consumed 397,000 bbl/d of oil in 2004, with net exports of 295,600 bbl/d; Argentina's oil exports go primarily to Chile and Brazil.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/argentna.html