Hmmm...

I think that there have been a few oil proffesionals that have been just as blunt.  Jeffee's I believe was quoted in the local paper "war, famine, pestilence, and death".  and you are pissed about resorts and shingles?

My gut feeling is that the people who post here in the oil industry are all too aware of the implications of PO as we move forward.  It is not an "uplifting" conversation which is why the politicians really have thier hands tied in trying to fix it, is because of people like you.  Oil is everywhere you just don't see it.  If you dare, look around you and ask yourself this question "how does oil enter into what I'm looking at right now?." Paint-shingles-electricity-food-clothes-irrigation, etc. Move to the next question - "What will replace it?." When it starts to look ugly don't look away because whether you or I like it doesn't really matter.  This kind of conversation will
become more common in the future.  I guess I get to drag you by the ear to take a look from my limited obsevations.

The "worlds first oil shortage". 2 weeks ago I drove to a newly restored lighthouse at cape foul weather and took a tour.  It was built in the late 1800's during the "worlds first oil shortage" - whale oil, we humans had hunted the whales to near extinction so there was a shortage of whale oil to light the lamps.  They used "pig oil" for 12 years rendered from pig fat.  Then they found a new oil called "kerosene"  which they used until the 50's when they switched to electric lamps.  Which they still use today. The point being- whales like oil are not unlimited.

Electricity in Oregon is from: 42%coal, 7%nat gas, 3% nuclear, <5% bio-gas/wind, and the balance hydro, according the "The Oregonian". My clean-fish killing-hydro myth was busted.  So lets replace fuel cars with battery ones and plug in...to more fossil fuel!  How many enviromentalists think plug in cars are the answer?  Quite a few I bet.

The future has to be very diferent than it is today.  I tried to point out some obsevations that are to me relative to what we face in an oil limited world.  Is it about wells and extraction rates- no.  But I think that we need to come to grips with how pervasive oil is in our society, so that we realize just what we are up against.  I believe that the oil professionals here understand it very well and let us draw the conclusions and get called names.;-)

Unlike the post below you offer no(0)solutions.  Perhaps you should think of some and reply.  Spare me the "nasty doomer" unless you have good suggestions that are not so full of holes that a sieve looks like a good way to carry water.  I would love that debate....your turn.