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dinopello on August 30, 2006 - 9:28am Permalink | Subthread | Comments top
I love Vonnegut and his unfiltered Pall Malls.  He is someone about whom I would be proud to say (his works) are a fine example of American culture and literature.  Are there any contemporaries in American literature that one could compare to him though?  
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davidsmi on August 30, 2006 - 9:34am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Tom Robbins?
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CarCulture on August 30, 2006 - 3:38pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Robbins?  Definitely.
Also, try Bukowski.
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alistairC on August 30, 2006 - 9:42am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Philip Roth.
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dinopello on August 30, 2006 - 9:53am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Thanks.  If you are going to be suggesting authors, it would be great if you could also point to one or two books that you like.  I know at least that Robbins is very prolific so knowing what to sample would be nice.  

BTW, I didn't know the NY Times had dubbed Vonnegut the "laughing prophet of doom".  He would fit right in on many of these peak oil sites with that handle.  

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roel on August 30, 2006 - 11:13am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Wait a few years, and you'll have your modern day Steinbeck. Faulkner comes to mind. Nothing spawns good inspired stories as well as misery does. See, it iIS good for something. Link it to Leanan's posting on dying drying farmers and we're talking Nobel material.
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dinopello on August 30, 2006 - 11:20am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Good music also is born of misery.  Something else to look forward to :(
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ggg71 on August 30, 2006 - 11:47am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

The world of Boxing will probably make a comeback as well.
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tandersonbrown on August 30, 2006 - 12:03pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
I can see all kinds of outlawed entertainment coming back with a vengeance. Cock fighting comes to mind.
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ggg71 on August 30, 2006 - 12:35pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Well with less oil there will be a lot less policing by the government.  At least at the federal level.
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fleam on August 30, 2006 - 11:28pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Um, cock fighting never went away..... illegal sure but so's tearing that tag off of your mattress.

There's all kinds of stuff going on, ways of life, etc that are hidden from the owning and chattering classes but are part of reality for the dreaded underclass. Growing up, I sometimes wondered if we'd landed in the 1970s or the 1930s.

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tandersonbrown on August 31, 2006 - 8:55am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Hey Fleam,
I know cock fighting happens. I just meant that we would be watching cock fights in people's front yards instead of in the basement of some tenament building in Tijuana.
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totoneila on August 30, 2006 - 1:53pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Hello Dinopello,

Excellent Point!

I don't have satellite radio like Sirius, so I don't know if they already have a "Peak Channel".  But they ought to have one while they still can.

Is there an WWWeb radio station that specializes in the "Songs & Poetry of Doom"?  I think a economically viable market for this exists--might be a good way to hammer into the reptilian-brain level of those who are text-averse to actually studying Peak Everything.  Could help many to conserve and push for political reform.

The revenue would come from advertisers like booze, guns & ammo, painkiller & sleeping pills, bicycle mfg, etc.  The playlist could be interspersed with snippets of dire news, or interviews with experts to help further juice the advertisers' sales.  The playlist would feature the songs and the audible reading of poetry that is often posted here on TOD.

Bob Shaw in Phx,Az  Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?

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DelusionaL on August 30, 2006 - 10:32pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Morbidly funny there Robert...
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mikeB on August 30, 2006 - 11:08am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Paul Fussell, a great critic and skeptic.
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NeverLNG on August 30, 2006 - 11:25am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Joseph Heller:

Catch 22
God Knows

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tandersonbrown on August 30, 2006 - 11:59am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Sorry, I can't recommend any authors, but I love the end of the Rolling Stone article.

"Now I'm forced to suffer leaders with names like Bush and Dick and, up until recently, 'Colon.'"....

That'll get a laugh from me every time.

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Jeb on August 30, 2006 - 3:13pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Good authors, but how about some current authors that aren't contemporaries of Vonnegut?  My suggestions would be Douglas Coupland (Generation X) and Neil Stephenson (Zodiac and Cryptonomicon).
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fleam on August 30, 2006 - 11:30pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Oh yeah, Coupland, "Girlfriend In a Coma" and the one where the protagonist has all those hair-care products....
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Hurin on August 31, 2006 - 2:01am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
No, thats 'Shampo Planet'.
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fleam on August 31, 2006 - 2:15am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Yeah, Girlfriend In a Coma AND Shampoo Planet, GF in a Coma is much more depressing lol.

Shampoo Planet kinda cops out at the end, Microserfs too .... a job/jobs appear(s) and all ends well.....

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