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Dragonfly41 on September 3, 2006 - 12:08pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
No reason at all...he will be #7:

GO-POP (Grand Ole Peak Oil Party) - possible merge with POGO (pending):

1 - Roscoe Bartlett (R - Maryland)
2 - Richard Lugar (R - Indiana)
3 - Tom Udall (D-New Mexico)
4 - Edward Markey (D - Massachusetts)
5 - Al Gore (Ex-presidential candidate & inventor of the Internet)
6 - Bill Clinton (former prez, has admitted to the concept of Peak Oil)
7 - Mark Udall (D-Colorado)

Current Tenets:

  • Must be Peak Oil aware or have stated ideas/policies that would work favorably in a PO USA.
  • Solutions for PO USA must not include purposeful force or death on those that export oil.
  • Can speak of ethanol as a partial solution, but ethanol can not be the ONLY solution.  Any that have close ties to any aspects of ethanol production will be excluded.
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Wharf Rat on September 3, 2006 - 12:27pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
 I hate to mention him, but what about Gov. Arnold Roidboy?
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Dragonfly41 on September 3, 2006 - 4:57pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
The Governator??? You know, I thought about him.  Recently he's passed some good stuff, although he made some mistakes with hydrogen.  I think we need to wait and see if his colors have truly changed, but I'm open to his membership consideration.
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roel on September 3, 2006 - 10:35pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
the scale gets slippery, doesn't it?
something tells me if you want a real list with real people really committed, that list will be blissfully mercifully short, and you'll easily fit it on one bumper sticker

a politician's no.1 priority is getting (re-)elected
a conscience, if present, comes way behind that, let alone responsibility for constituents, unless they belong to a majority

some EU politicians speak out louder on certain issues, such as energy and environment, than their US counterparts, but that is just because the polls tell them it enhances their "inclusive vote-fitness"

and then you find out they lie

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Dragonfly41 on September 3, 2006 - 10:47pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Yes...well...getting even some comment about energy issues or PO from US politicians is astounding.  So that's where I'm starting.  It's really all I have to go with right now.

The next step will be making sure they take action on their words.

Great journeys start with just one step.  That first step can be the hardest one to take.

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Dragonfly41 on September 3, 2006 - 10:49pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
the scale gets slippery, doesn't it?

Sure it does...this won't be easy.  But, things worth fighting for are rarely easy.  

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DavidM on September 3, 2006 - 7:20pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Washington state's Jay Inslee (D) is also aware of Peak Oil. In an interview last year he mentioned a meeting between Bill Gates and the state's Congressional delegation, where Gates brought up Deffeyes' "Hubbert's Peak" book as a topic of discussion.

Other than in that interview, I haven't heard Inslee mention Peak Oil, but he is the Congressman who put forward the New Apollo Energy Project.
http://www.theoildrum.com/classic/2005/06/new-apollo-legislationor-theyre-paying.html

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totoneila on September 3, 2006 - 7:42pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Hello DavidM,

That's terrific--Bill Gates singlehandily could move the Peakoil Outreach effort further ahead than any WWWeb forum!  Hope he doesn't withdraw like Richard Rainwater.

Bob Shaw in Phx,Az  Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?

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Dragonfly41 on September 3, 2006 - 10:55pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
GO-POP (Grand Ole Peak Oil Party) - possible merge with POGO (pending):

1 - Roscoe Bartlett (R - Maryland)
2 - Richard Lugar (R - Indiana)
3 - Tom Udall (D-New Mexico)
4 - Edward Markey (D - Massachusetts)
5 - Al Gore (Ex-presidential candidate)
6 - Bill Clinton (former prez)
7 - Mark Udall (D-Colorado)
8 - Jay Inslee (D - Washington)
9 - Bill Gates (this party will need funding)
10 - Richard Rainwater (ditto #9 if he's got the will to come back)

* Any other billionaires care to join?  We also need more Republicans to come aboard.  Who's with us?  Well, who's with me since no one else has officially signed up for the party except myself?

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Wharf Rat on September 5, 2006 - 7:45pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Congressman backs post-oil planning: Thompson says Willits can set national example
by Claudia Reed

"We can't keep going the way we've been going," said Congressman Mike Thompson. "That's a no brainer."

Speaking during Mondays meeting with local officials and members of the Willits Economic LocaLization (WELL) group, Thompson was referring to an economy based on insatiable consumption of fossil fuels. The United States, he said, comprises about 6 percent of the worlds population, but consumes at least 25 percent of its oil, most of which is imported.

http://www.energybulletin.net/11342.html

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