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141 comments on HYDROGEN - grease to the elbow of Scottish power?

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AlanfromBigEasy on October 15, 2006 - 11:22am Permalink | Subthread | Comments top
Wrong technology.  IF Scotland has surplus power (electrical or NG ;-P then make ammonia with it.  But as we both know, Soctland does not have a surplus of either.

My quick take (about to take visitor from Los Angeles, responsible for getting the Expo Light Rail Line built, out about our disaster zone and then feed them).

Best Hopes,

Alan

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David Tomlinson on October 15, 2006 - 6:20pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
That wouldn't be NH3 would it, or alternatively methonol CH3OH, both have been proposed as fuel cell fuels, as has H2  stored in a metal hydrate.

I don't just think of Hydrogen as H2 (H-H).

Both the above liquids could be used as a liquid store of hydrogen, to be liberated in a fuel cell, or for other applications, like the use of ammonia in fertilisers (Ammonium Nitrate or Sulphate).

We liberate energy by breaking non-polar or slightly polar bonds H-H C-H and creating highly polar or ionic bonds H-0-H (H2O)(Hydrogen bonding with O, F, N) with 5-10% of energy of a covalent bond, releasing bond energy. Of course if we start with H20, then  we will lose energy in the process (due to entropy), but may gain other desirable outcomes including storage and transfer of energy (as a gas or liquid).

Electronegativity increases across the periodic table from left to right. It increases going up the periodic table.

Now someone is going to correct my basic knowledge of chemistry.

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jjhman on October 15, 2006 - 9:26pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
I think he means make fertilizer, not fuel.
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