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dmathews you're mellowing out, and becoming much more readable.
However, as I've said before and will keep saying, much of this web site is all about How can be keep the Modern civilization party going?
Just coming right on out and saying that humans "hafta" learn to live without cars and TVs and live within Mother Nature's budget will make you about as popular as someone screaming on the sinking Titanic, "DO SOMETHING people, we're SINKING!"
dmathews is just too blunt in the way he says what he says.
but that doesn't mean what he says is wrong, just that people do not want to listen.
because what he represents is the reality that drastic changes are needed to at least minimally soften the blow reality is about to make on people.
or as someone posted here once.
you can't solve a problem with the same frame of mind that got you into the problem in the first place.