That little graphic is so cute.

I live in Halifax, England. The other day some al qaida types were arrested 100 yards from my house. Our kids play with their kids, then their kids go off to the islamic education centres ,that are dotted around the town, for extra tuition. I try to be open minded about things but there isn't too much lurv between our two communities at the moment.

"there isn't too much lurv between our two communities at the moment"

That's one of the reasons I see Europeans as being more reluctant to confront radical islam in general. The fact that there is a sizable community within your own neighborhood that "might" be a direct threat to yourself is frightening and makes you less likely to want to antagonize them.

In the 70's there were two groups in the area where I grew up that were openly violent - one of which had radical, fundamentalist christian ties (100 %caucasian), the other a seperatist ethnic group.

It's not pleasant growing up within a community where there is little trust between neighbors. Especially during difficult economic times.

Good luck to you and your profound locale.

radical islam is not as big of a threat as it's blown up to be. the religious nuts you have to worry about are the Christian fundies and bush.

It remainds me about something i saw on television about IRA sometimes they used torture to get information and there was someone who said that he had reported one of his neighbour that he know was not a member.

replying here to get upthread real estate

The term thermo-gene collision has been thrown around here since I've been reading TOD. Like I was supposed to know what they were talking about. Never having been a regular reader of dieoff.org since it was a sort-of ugly website and the subject matter wasn't appealing, I hadn't read much of Jay Hanson's writing. Today I followed a link to one of his essays, so here goes for similarly ignorant TOD readers:

THE “THERMO/GENE” COLLISION
“Man still bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his lowly origin.” – Charles Darwin, 1871

We have seen that thermodynamic laws promise us less-and-less, while our genes are demanding more-and-more. Although these biophysical laws are now politically
incorrect and suppressed from public discourse, these laws will not go away. Roughly fifteen years from now, the thermo/gene collision will cause people to revert to a fundamentally different set of behaviors. These are the ancient behaviors that we evolved during the many periods of overpopulation which have occurred in our millions of years as animals. Those in power will use every tool at their disposal – including nuclear weapons – to increase their fraction of the remaining energy thereby maintaining social hierarchy (social advantage) for their children.

The “thermo/gene collision” will ultimately kill billions of people worldwide as nuclear wars, starvation, and social system collapse grip the planet into the future. When our subconscious feels our fitness is best served by lying, cheating, stealing, raping, or killing, then we will do so. It is our genetic legacy.

replying here to get upthread real estate

I really wish people wouldn't do that. It's confusing enough trying to follow the discussion without people jumping in randomly just to be higher up on the page.

I agree!

Properly chastised, I shall never do that again. Now all you need do is convince the other 9,999 upthread hangers-on.

Hi DIYer,

Well, this leaves me with the dilemna of where to reply. I'd like to comment on "It is our genetic legacy."

What constitutes "our genetic legacy" is a matter of on-going study and understanding.

"our genetic legacy"

Which I have just demonstrated by latching onto an upthread post.

( however, I shall endeavor to avoid becoming a troll )

Yep! When overcrowded, the behavior of rats changes radically, They start attacking each other, eating their own and others' young, etc.

Acting like people are starting to in some areas now.

I have some new, particularly psycho, neighbors now. And that brought an epiphany - the old public service justification for ham radio, being licensed, "an amateur's station and skills are always at the service of their community and country" and all that old stuff......that's all gone now. I've had one break-in attempt so far and things are pretty tense around here. We share a common walkway and they seem to have the old "us or you" attitude.

Needless to say, I'm at a higher alert level lately....

So, what I realized is, hell, I don't want to help out my community in case of disaster, I want to see the disaster wipe most of 'em out! Help a neighbor who's pinned under a fallen house or tree limb? Most likely, I'll help 'em out all right, by standing on their neck.

Ham radio is no longer about public service. I am no longer about public service. All my ham stuff is for sale, I will get a decent shortwave because I like to listen, may be fun listening to the edges of Empire unravel, then the center hehe. I don't need Icom or Yaesu or Kenwood, happiness is a warm gun :-)

I wonder if it's too late in life for me to work on studying on the creation and dispersal of viruses that will give Mother Earth the 90% trimdown in humans She needs?

Hi fleam,

"Needless to say, I'm at a higher alert level lately...."

It sounds tense. I hesitate to offer anything other than empathy. Still, this being the forum for sharing of information and all...

Here are a few links. The top one I posted the other day, when you were talking about TV, because I thought you might enjoy it. (And I was saying how much I enjoy the TV-free lifestyle.)

The "CNVC" thing - all I can say is, I've seen it work. It doesn't mean it has to work or always works, just that I've seen it.

And, I don't know...your area may be too crowded for any of this. But the more I read the Ashland CERT newsletters, I'm still amazed and in awe of what they're doing there. Anyway, check it out - maybe more fun than virology.

http://www.tvturnoff.org/ - Used to be called "TV-Free America".

www.cnvc.org

http://www.ashland.or.us/Page.asp?NavID=541

Yup.

And we are all sweet on Leanan, of course!

Happy Valentine's Day, Leanan!

No shortage of honey dripping here.

No, petroleum is going to run short, I hear.

Also, the honey bees are dying, so we will have to be sweet to one another.

"The beautiful creatures are going away...."

Read:

http://warsocialism.com/thermogenecollision.pdf

and check our E. O. Wilson "The Creation."

Our rather unloving species has had a cumulative effect on the planet similiar to a large meteor strike, according to Wilson. By 2050, over one-fourth of all species will be gone, by 2100, over one-half of all species will be gone.

Meanwhile, the political elites of our various nations are maneuvering to win a "last man standing" resource war.

Darn, so much for the honey dripping. I think I just wet myself.

I do not control others or the planet. Most of the time I barely control myself. i do try to do my bit for a peaceful and just world tomorrow, even so. I sure do not control the outcome of how tomorrow will be.

But hey, Happy Valentine's Day!

I recall that honeybees experienced an epidemic a few years ago caused by a bacteria. Unlike us mammals insects can adapt to and bounce back from environmental challenges quickly.

I guess you missed that article about Rwanda going from genocide to overpopulation (again) pretty darn quick. They are mammals too. :)