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DIYer on February 14, 2007 - 11:27am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

replying here to get upthread real estate

The term thermo-gene collision has been thrown around here since I've been reading TOD. Like I was supposed to know what they were talking about. Never having been a regular reader of dieoff.org since it was a sort-of ugly website and the subject matter wasn't appealing, I hadn't read much of Jay Hanson's writing. Today I followed a link to one of his essays, so here goes for similarly ignorant TOD readers:

THE “THERMO/GENE” COLLISION
“Man still bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his lowly origin.” – Charles Darwin, 1871

We have seen that thermodynamic laws promise us less-and-less, while our genes are demanding more-and-more. Although these biophysical laws are now politically
incorrect and suppressed from public discourse, these laws will not go away. Roughly fifteen years from now, the thermo/gene collision will cause people to revert to a fundamentally different set of behaviors. These are the ancient behaviors that we evolved during the many periods of overpopulation which have occurred in our millions of years as animals. Those in power will use every tool at their disposal – including nuclear weapons – to increase their fraction of the remaining energy thereby maintaining social hierarchy (social advantage) for their children.

The “thermo/gene collision” will ultimately kill billions of people worldwide as nuclear wars, starvation, and social system collapse grip the planet into the future. When our subconscious feels our fitness is best served by lying, cheating, stealing, raping, or killing, then we will do so. It is our genetic legacy.

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Leanan on February 14, 2007 - 11:32am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

replying here to get upthread real estate

I really wish people wouldn't do that. It's confusing enough trying to follow the discussion without people jumping in randomly just to be higher up on the page.

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DelusionaL on February 14, 2007 - 12:59pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I agree!

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DIYer on February 14, 2007 - 4:25pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Properly chastised, I shall never do that again. Now all you need do is convince the other 9,999 upthread hangers-on.

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Aniya on February 15, 2007 - 12:10am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Hi DIYer,

Well, this leaves me with the dilemna of where to reply. I'd like to comment on "It is our genetic legacy."

What constitutes "our genetic legacy" is a matter of on-going study and understanding.

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DIYer on February 15, 2007 - 10:06am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

"our genetic legacy"

Which I have just demonstrated by latching onto an upthread post.

( however, I shall endeavor to avoid becoming a troll )

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fleam on February 15, 2007 - 3:31am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Yep! When overcrowded, the behavior of rats changes radically, They start attacking each other, eating their own and others' young, etc.

Acting like people are starting to in some areas now.

I have some new, particularly psycho, neighbors now. And that brought an epiphany - the old public service justification for ham radio, being licensed, "an amateur's station and skills are always at the service of their community and country" and all that old stuff......that's all gone now. I've had one break-in attempt so far and things are pretty tense around here. We share a common walkway and they seem to have the old "us or you" attitude.

Needless to say, I'm at a higher alert level lately....

So, what I realized is, hell, I don't want to help out my community in case of disaster, I want to see the disaster wipe most of 'em out! Help a neighbor who's pinned under a fallen house or tree limb? Most likely, I'll help 'em out all right, by standing on their neck.

Ham radio is no longer about public service. I am no longer about public service. All my ham stuff is for sale, I will get a decent shortwave because I like to listen, may be fun listening to the edges of Empire unravel, then the center hehe. I don't need Icom or Yaesu or Kenwood, happiness is a warm gun :-)

I wonder if it's too late in life for me to work on studying on the creation and dispersal of viruses that will give Mother Earth the 90% trimdown in humans She needs?

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Aniya on February 15, 2007 - 11:46pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Hi fleam,

"Needless to say, I'm at a higher alert level lately...."

It sounds tense. I hesitate to offer anything other than empathy. Still, this being the forum for sharing of information and all...

Here are a few links. The top one I posted the other day, when you were talking about TV, because I thought you might enjoy it. (And I was saying how much I enjoy the TV-free lifestyle.)

The "CNVC" thing - all I can say is, I've seen it work. It doesn't mean it has to work or always works, just that I've seen it.

And, I don't know...your area may be too crowded for any of this. But the more I read the Ashland CERT newsletters, I'm still amazed and in awe of what they're doing there. Anyway, check it out - maybe more fun than virology.

http://www.tvturnoff.org/ - Used to be called "TV-Free America".

www.cnvc.org

http://www.ashland.or.us/Page.asp?NavID=541

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