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Hello Everyone,
Toilforoil does his cause no favor by saying:
Freddy returns the favor and denigrates his own viewpoints by saying:
Needless to say (if only it were needless, but alas -- it is not), both parties to the argument have destroyed the usefulness of their comments by speaking in the above fashion.
Undoubtedly, there is a calm & rational manner for people to argue about Global Warming even when their viewpoints contradict. Why is this so difficult?
Emotional outbursts and trading of insults does not serve any intellectual purpose at all, it is strictly a form of appealing to (vile) emotions over reason.
There is already enough stress in this world, toilforoil and Freddy ought to discuss this disagreement with respect and civility.
David Mathews
http://www.geocities.com/dmathew1
Actually, David, my comment was not an emotional outburst, but an attempt to reveal to Hothgor just what kind of ignoramous he was defending. Hutter is a global warming denier. Hothgor appeared to think differently.
Hutter is not deserving of civil engagement. He is abusive and insulting, without warrant. He misrepresents facts and twists logic. His type is all too common and in a previous era dressed in brownshirts and strutted on the strasse. It is a type frustrated by their personal insignificance who possess an exaggerated notion of their own intelligence, yet who recognize rigorous analysis only by their inability to understand the content. Fundamentally, they hate intellectuals, though they would that the world saw them as thinkers. This is why, in my view, Hutter attacks cogent thinkers like Dave Cohen, Leanan, Westexas and others. Hutter is not interested in civil discussion, though he makes the occasional pretense that he is. He does not want to lose the attention he gets at TOD. He revels in the destruction and degradation he visits upon TOD.
You have recently been attacking TOD as a proxy for the oil industry, David, another agent, you suggest, in the force of environmental degraders and destroyers. But your attack is misdirected. Hutter, the archetypical brownshirt, is your real enemy.