Yeah it is really nice to have the old TOD back. I really want to thank the editors for getting rid of the following people:

1. dmathew1 = "Humans are evil; Americans are evil; oil industry is evil although I consume their products; technology is evil although I have internet and cable TV; no, I am not a pompous, depressed, hypocrite who loves to not practice what he preaches, humans deserve to go extinct; humans will go extinct; Chinese are evil just like the Americans,....."

2. Hothgor = "I am too intelligent to be fodder like those frontline troops in combat; if you are not a warmonger imperialist like me then you are an anti-American liberal......"

3. Freddy: well you get the picture; I don't have to write about him :-)

In fact, you didn't have to write any of that.
It doesn't show a lot of class.
The idea is to return to, or move towards, an environment of more respect.
That includes everyone.

I did regret my own comment at the top after posting as I realised some repeat discussion about the ban would restart. Sorry about that.

I agree that I shouldn't have written that. But the sense of relief was overwhelming and I got carried away.

Exhibit A: Why posters 2. and 3. were not the problem.

WOW! I still can log on!

The rocket must have missed me and hit Matthews...

No point in starting flame wars against people who cannot now answer back :-(

two comments.

1. if you judge a person or group of people by their actions then dmathew was right our actions are evil. that is of course your one of those humans who care for the only known world in the universe harboring life over money.

2. continue parsing the ideological purge, but don't come crying to me or anyone else when you end up on the wrong side of the next one as the editor's here including leanan demonstrate how thin of skin they actually have by removing people who *gasp* have different views.

As boring as you continue to be, your comments do not capture the sentiment of the many "thank yous" I have received in the eds box over our decision...and perhaps, if you would do a little thinking instead of whining, which may be too much to ask, the fact that you are still posting perhaps answers your cries of unfairness.

It was not an ideological purge. It was not a perspective purge. It was a purge of a lack of civility and respect for what we are attempting to do here...and, frankly, if you don't buy that, I could really care less.

As I said over on the other thread:

Here is the policy (which I would hope people would ascribe to in their every day lives, but perhaps that's too much to expect from adults): be civil, be respectful of others (including typing in a manner suitable for someone over the age of four), and you can participate here, whatever your perspective.

Not that we have to justify our decisions, but none of us enjoyed making the decisions we made the other day; however, know that we will do what we need to in order preserve TOD as place where we can talk about ideas in a civil and respectful manner.

It got out of hand, and it was dealt with. It will get out of hand again, and it will be dealt with again.

If folks don't like how we do things around here, oh well. You're always welcome to go elsewhere.

We made decisions. If you don't like them, as I said above, I could really care less.

First of all, there is absolutely no evidence that dmathew1 cares about the environment any more than the CEO of Monsanto. Writing melodramatic posts on the internet is not evidence of any constructive action.

Secondly, after you have heard him for the first time, there is no point in listening to him again. He has nothing new to say other than the rant I posted in my original comment.

The third point I want to make is that he is a hypocrite. If he truly believes that technology, electricity, oil industry, etc. is evil then why does he not build a shack in the woods and live off the land? He mentioned in one of his posts that he has cable TV with 200 channels (or something like that). Don't you see the contradiction?

And last but not the least, yes, it is true that humans are selfish and all evil flows from that. But that will never change. So what is the point in bringing it up again and again? If you really believe that humans deserve to become extinct then you have start with yourself by committing suicide (I am not really advocating suicide; this is rhetoric).

This is my final post in this thread.