I got this in late last night. Just wanted to post it again.
Having been at this topic for 9 years, I am certain that short of collapse there will be no significant movement toward plan B. The cluelessness of the MSM is so overwhelming as to leave one breathless. I took a break today and watched the coverage of the fires in California on Fox news. One of their reporters, a Trace Ghallager, made the idiot of the day award for me when he said, " Well the fire fighters caught a break today, as with daylight savings there will be an extra hour of daylight to fight the fire." Maybe we could get president Bush to declare an emergency Daylight savings for Orange County so the sun would not go down until the fire is out. Mind boggling!
The verbal exchange between Robert and Jeffrey is interesting but meaningless. The Saudi peak will happen when it does, the world peak will happen when it does, and NO ONE will prepare for it, other than a few lunatics like us, on this site and others similar to it.

Treeman, you had better hope that you don't have any forest fires on Nov 4th, when there'll be one less hour of daylight!