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160 comments on DrumBeat: April 19, 2007

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Laurence Aurbach on April 19, 2007 - 12:19pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

The document is here: Climate Change 2007: Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability

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chapterwon on April 19, 2007 - 12:45pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Thanks for your response. Unfortunately, that's not what I was looking for.

The document you posted is the 22 page summary of the full report. The full report hasn't been released yet, but is being released one chapter at a time. Chapter 14, a 67 page document dealing with impact on North America, was released on Tuesday. (A few more details are here. Apparently, the IPCC had a press conference concurrently with its release. Unfortunately, I can't find the document itself (chapter 14 of the full report) anywhere.

Also, although the summary you cited has been extensively covered on TOD and elsewhere, I haven't seen much coverage of the N. America chapter here or on other blogs. (If I'm wrong, someone please advise!)

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Leanan on April 19, 2007 - 1:08pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Here's a few links:

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/53009.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/629/629/6528979.stm

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/04/06/dust.bowl.ap/

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070416/ap_on_sc/warming_water;_ylt=ArGdFvTX...

I don't think the chapter you are interested in has been released yet. At least, not online.

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chapterwon on April 19, 2007 - 2:08pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Thanks for the links.

Its a bit strange, because it sure sounds like its been released. For example, the WashPost reported

The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which released its summary report on global warming's overall impact earlier this month, provided a more detailed assessment yesterday of the effects on North America. The report, written and edited by dozens of scientists, looks at how global warming has begun to transform the continent and how it is likely to affect it in the future.

The 67-page report, which examines everything from freshwater ecosystems to tourism, said North America has suffered severe environmental and economic damage because of extreme weather events such as hurricanes, heat waves and forest fires.

Lots of news organizations, including some at the links you provided, are writing as if they have read it. This sure makes it sound to me like its been released. And its a bit strange, in 2007, that its not available online days after it was "provided." But I can't find it anywhere so perhaps your correct and it really isn't available online, and all these articles were just based on a press release or press conference.

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Laurence Aurbach on April 19, 2007 - 3:38pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

The location given for the 67-page report is www.gtp89.dial.pipex.com/FGD/Ch14.pdf. It appears that .pdf file is not currently online, however, the Google cache of the document is available.

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chapterwon on April 19, 2007 - 3:44pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Thanks! Clearly, you are a much better googler than I :)

Interestingly, not only is the pdf not available online, but the draft at the google cache says its a "final draft for government review" and says "CONFIDENTIAL: Do Not Cite – Do Not Quote" on the top of every page. Wonder what's going on.

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oldhippie on April 19, 2007 - 9:33pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Interesting. And much as I suspected. Rather than modelling they are simply observing present changes and present trends and extrapolating them into the future. If the popular mind has not even gone that far and is merely denying reality that's better than nothing. But basically the best-informed are simply at saying the future will be much like the present only worse.
In other words no one knows the future. Duh. But the authors have a bad feeling.

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