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As an additional side note on the Tar Sands, Yes you can see the tailings ponds, I've been there and saw first hand, as well as google earthing it! Those white sandy beaches in Google Earth are clay beaches. Here is the problem, You cannot filter or remove clay from water, you can remove a percentage, however on a high volume daily basis, the "fines" add up. In the words of an oil industry executive "If you find a way of removeing 100% of the clay,.. you are god & patent it!"
I happen to operatate a much smaller clay separating unit from Cetco which is a subsidary Company for Amcol Int. We are slowly plugging up the sewer lines, even though we dual filter it, that is the liquid solid separating filter is 30um, then the water travels through a 20um sock/bag filter unit. Tertiary recovery program on a small scale = big bottleneck in production flow.
Additionally, there is a Phd thesis by Fredrik Robelius on peak oil, not sure if anyone saw this?
OCB
Did you ever try the electrical current method for sedimentation enhancement? Some 30-odd years ago when I had a tailings pond type of problem this was one of the solutions that seemed possible. We ended up doing something else so I never really chased it down very far, but it has always stuck in my mind as a possible answer.
Yes yes we did look at this. I forgot about this, you looked too eh! I remember some of the problems (just) variable resistivity in the mineral attachments on the clay particles causes reflective characteristics, so total turbidity (ntu) results were not good on thier testing. Secondly, did you guys have Ph problems? we did at the begining of the test trial period. But additional powder solved it, but I don't remember the powder. The Eng'rs determined evaporation was cheapest. yet the settling can take 70yrs or more, so they hoped for warm summers.
Our biggest problem is filtration of the majority of the clay fines, every 8hrs bags need changing.