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Why do some of you seem to have this interminable need to refer everything back to climate change or, amazingly enough, 9/11 theories?
For goodness sake, show some respect!
Khebab has spent a hell of a lot of time putting together a really good, professional post on peak oil and you precious ponies what to hijack the thread to talk about your pet subjects.
If you want to spout about those sorts of things, there are plenty of other forums to do it in (including the daily drum).
Please, stop polluting the research and analysis threads with this sort of stuff.
I absolutely agree concerning the 9/11 stuff, but you must know the climate change story started in scientific circles and has always been run by professionals. Any indication to the otherwise has always been, and still is, industry disinformation.
Want to _really_ know about climate change? Read the scientific literature. There is no substitute.
ciao,
Bruce
Critical_Mind, I hope you weren't referring to me. I was simply offering my opinion, not trying to be disrespectful of Khebab (who's work I not only respect, but thoroughly appreciate.)
I was just responding to a comment... I thought that's what the comment section was for. Comments and discussion. I hate to be smug, but I think I'm right (like most people).
Sometimes when someone responds to a comment I've posted I feel the need to engage the person's comment further so as to expound my analysis and/or position. And I think I have done so, now let my text speak for itself.
There is a disconcerting tendency for people that accept peak oil being a reality to concurrently hold unfounded conspiratorial beliefs about 9/11.
This is a problem for the TOD community, and the "movement" as a whole as it discredits much of the hard work that you are imploring us to respect. I humbly believe it is important for anyone who takes peak oil seriously to vocally distance themselves from the the so-called "theories" of the 9/11 truth meme. It needs to be stated that 9/11 may have been taken advantage of (to invade Iraq) on dubious premises, but that does not in any way somehow implicate Dick Cheney in giving Mr. Atta the "go" command (and don't ask my opinion of Cheney...) It needs to be stated in somewhat arguably-important venues that this is uncalled for, and damages not only the Left, but peak oil awareness as well. A quick google of "peakoil" and "9/11" will come up with some pretty discrediting stuff and is a superficial and easy (yet effective) way for propagandists to filter and diminish *critical* thought when it comes to "energy and our future", as the TOD masthead says.
I do preemptively apologize for adding yet even more clutter, but this is the goddamn internet--give me a break!
In my opinion, 9/11 is not an appropriate topic for this blog but climate change is because climate change is intimately tied to fossil fuels.
Additionally, I didn't see where Professor Goose made you a moderator of TOD. Oh he didn't? Then why are you worrying your head about it? The editors and contributors of TOD will police it (or not) as they see fit.
Ghawar Is Dying
The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function. - Dr. Albert Bartlett
Grey: Neither topic is appropriate here IMO but most 9/11 bloggers do specifically relate the events to fossil fuel depletion (necessitating Iraq oil grab).
I believe that you are flatly incorrect about climate change as there have been many main articles on TOD itself in the past on that very topic but none, ever, about 9/11 conspiracy theories. If Professor Goose has allowed articles about climate change here and if those articles have been posted (both of which are true) then discussion of climate change is part of this blog.
Ghawar Is Dying
The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function. - Dr. Albert Bartlett