102 comments on BlogAds Survey Results!
Comments can no longer be added to this story.
| Show without comments | PDF version
102 comments on BlogAds Survey Results!
Comments can no longer be added to this story.
| Show without comments | PDF version
Search The Oil Drum with Google
Support The Oil Drum
Recently on TOD:World
TOD:Campfire
TOD:Europe
- Carbon Capture and Storage
- Oilwatch Monthly November 2009
- Some predictions on the forthcoming Russian-Ukrainian gas 'crisis'
TOD:Canada
- In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
- The Round-Up: October 24, 2008
- Compressed Air Energy Storage - How viable is it?
TOD:Australia/NZ
- International Energy Agency calls 'Peak' on OECD Oil Demand
- Australian Senate: Peak Oil motion defeated 31:6
- The Bullroarer - Friday 20th November 2009
TOD:Net Energy
Blogroll
Energy Sites
- The Coming Global Oil Crisis
- Die Off
- Dry Dipstick
- Energy Bulletin
- From the Wilderness
- Life After the Oil Crash
- Peak Oil Crisis
- Peak Oil News and Message Boards
- Powerswitch
- Rigzone
- Matthew Simmons
- Wolf at the Door
Environment & Sustainability Sites
- The Daily Green
- EcoGeek
- Eco Street
- Green Car Congress
- Green Options
- green.alltop.com
- Gristmill
- RealClimate
- Sustainablog
- Treehugger
- WorldChanging
Blogs
- Casaubon's Book
- Cleantech Blog
- Clusterf
k Nation (Jim Kunstler) - The Cost of Energy
- David Strahan
- Early Warning
- The Energy Blog
- European Tribune
- GraphOilology
- Health After Oil
- jeffvail.net
- Mobjectivist
- Peak Energy (Australia)
- Peak Energy (USA)
- R-Squared
- Resource Insights
Finance & Economics Blogs
- The Big Picture
- Calculated Risk
- The Crash Course
- Ecological Economics
- Econbrowser
- Environmental Economics
- Infectious Greed
- The Mess That Greenspan Made
- Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis
Organizations
Peak Oil Primers
Beware email scams!
Beware email scams claiming to be from this site. We do not have any job openings. If anyone contacts you about a job at The Oil Drum, do not reply to them, and definitely do not give them any personal information or send them money. Read more here.
“It's difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it.”
—Upton Sinclair
User login
Contact
- Content: editors at theoildrum dot com
- Tech support: support at theoildrum dot com
Personnel
- Editors: Nate Hagens, Gail the Actuary, Prof. Goose
- DrumBeat Editor: Leanan
- Contributors: ace, Engineer-Poet, Heading Out, jeffvail, JoulesBurn, Sam Foucher, Robert Rapier
- TOD:Campfire: Glenn, Jason Bradford
- TOD:Europe: Chris Vernon, Euan Mearns, Francois Cellier, Jerome a Paris, Luís de Sousa, Rembrandt, Rune Likvern, Ugo Bardi
- TOD:Canada: benk, Libelle
- TOD:ANZ: Big Gav, Phil Hart, aeldric
- Emeritus: Stuart Staniford
- Technician: Super G
License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.










GAIA Host Collective
How the hell are a bunch of religionists who violently disagree going to get together and try changing the world? Sheesh. Your argument is completely backwards.
No.
Your suggestion is misguided, bordering on offensive. Just because someone does not believe a particular story about a supernatural entity or entities does not mean they have no beliefs or morals. There is such a thing, I believe, as common sense - things such as reciprocity (considering how your actions affect others just as they should consider how their actions affect you) are quite natural and need not flow from a desire to fit in or receive reward from a higher authority. I do many things because it's the right thing to do, period, no appeal to higher authority required.
http://coffeeghost.net/2007/05/14/what-one-atheist-believes
"How the hell are a bunch of religionists.."
Well, you're probably right, just because the basic answer from otherworldly religion is, "we're all fried anyway - why bother on tinkering on the details?".
"There is such a thing, I believe, as common sense.."
The only problem is, is that common sense is not very common. Decisions are usually made because of loyalties - and not because it makes sense for the whole of mankind.
"I do many things because it's the right thing to do.."
To whose standards, your own? Refering to "The right thing" is in and of itself calling on a higher authority..
"...does not mean they (atheists) have no beliefs or morals"
No, you're perfectly right. But it does mean that these beliefs and morals are not necessarily those of your fellow man - or of ohter atheist for that matter. Or of the other visiters of TOD. The chances of members of an organized religion to have the same morals and beliefs are, on the other hand, a lot higher.
Your link, your "I believe" list, can hardly be serious. Part of the problem is, I admit, the use of "believe" in the English language. What you really mean is: I feel, I think, I find, My opinion is.. These have nothing to do with belief in anything (credo).
Cheers, Dom