Of course there are benefits, Keithster-one of the major ones being cutting the release of methane, a greenhouse gas, and a lot lower volume of waste to be buried. The problem is the same as all recycling-waste separation costs exceed the value of the products. If costs were not a problem we could recycle all the metals, turn the plastic and tires back into oil, make all the compost to replace chemical fertilisers, and feel very virtuous.

The problem is Americans don't want to hand-sort garbage for slave wages. Why don't you volunteer?

I saw a news story back in the 80's about a town in WA state. They had scales on the garbage trucks and they weighed the garbage collected from each household and charged them accordingly. This incentivized people to remove recyclables from their trash.

Everywhere I have lived, they simply charge a flat rate and people discard whatever they want. Driving up the price would be one simple way to reduce the amount going to landfills and increase the pre-sorting of recyclables.

In Japan, I believe they are required to pre-sort their trash into 14 different categories.

Don't become a Buddhist. The world doesn't need more Buddhists. Do practice compassion. The world does need more compassion. -- Dalai Lama

14?!?

I live in Tokyo and do three, burnable, unburnable and recyclable (cans, glass).

I can't find the article I read that mentioned 14 categories but here's a quote from the NYT.

How Do Japanese Dump Trash? Let Us Count the Myriad Ways

Japanese cities increase number of garbage categories in national drive to reduce waste and increase recycling; in Yokohama, which has 10 garbage categories, residents get 27-page booklet on how to sort their trash, with detailed instructions on 518 items; small town of Kamikatsu has 44 garbage categories;

This article is from 2005. The one I saw was from earlier this year. I guess I need to be more specific as garbage collection varies from city to city just as it does here.

Don't become a Buddhist. The world doesn't need more Buddhists. Do practice compassion. The world does need more compassion. -- Dalai Lama

Yokohama garbage collection guide

Burnable Garbage
Non-burnable
Cans, bottles and PET bottles
Plastic Containers/Packaging
Recycle paper
Used Cloth
Spray Cans
Dry Cells
Small Metal Items
Oversized Items

Apparently some people take this quite seriously.

There are many stories floating around of how garbage that hasn’t been properly sorted gets dumped back on their owner’s doorstep by vindictive neighbours who will actually go through your garbage to ascertain your identity.

More specifically...

One of the most tenacious around here is Mitsuharu Taniyama, 60, the owner of a small insurance business who drives around his ward every morning and evening, looking for missorted trash. He leaves notices at collection sites: "Mr. So-and-so, your practice of sorting out garbage is wrong. Please correct it."

"I checked inside bags and took especially lousy ones back to the owners' front doors," Mr. Taniyama said.

phreefallin,

Is that what passes for trashy behaviour in Japan?

Bad jokes aside, its a good idea,and wouldn't be onerous while the garbage is fresh. Probably helps hold down rats, too.

I was going to call him a garbage "nazi", but I think that term gets thrown around too often :)

Don't become a Buddhist. The world doesn't need more Buddhists. Do practice compassion. The world does need more compassion. -- Dalai Lama

Hello TODers,

Interesting mini-thread on recycling. Although I posted this before, please consider how badly Mexico recycles:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4916749.html
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Litter choking streets throughout Mexico
Activists say public isn't only culprit — leaders and companies are also culpable

Mexican environmental officials say that only several dozen of Mexico's more than 2,500 cities, towns and villages have a landfill or other kind of municipal garbage dump.
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Please click link for photo and much more text!

Bob Shaw in Phx,Az Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?

Okay, I get what you are saying.

And yes, my town has a similar list of garbage requirements. But 99% of the time my trash is only the three above mentioned categories. I only have three trash containers.

On the rare occasion I have to throw out a battery it has to be on the 4th thursday of the month. I thew out a matteress (futon) once, and I had to pay 500yen (5$) for a sticker to do that.

Its not nearly so severe as you'd think. The only one going through my garbage is the local alley cat :-)

Here in Sweden almost all trash goes directly to a district heating central and are burnt for energy. And yes, the furnaces do not emit poisonous gases, apparantly.

Recycleable or hazardous waste are supposed to be sorted and left at local recycling stations, of which several are located in most neighbourhoods, supposedly within walking distance (I live in the countryside and thus have a 2 kilometer walk to the recycling station). At the least people in general sort out paper and glass, but you could also sort metal, plastics and cloth. Rare categories like oils, car batteries, kitchen appliances, electronics etc are picked up twice a year outside the local firestation, or can be left year-round at the main recycling station, which features some 30-35 different categories of recycling containers.

Trash disposal at the household are solved differently, at my old dwelling they weighed everything automatically. At my current residence it's a flat fee, but bio-degradable waste should go into black bags, burnable into white bags, and they are sorted automatically - white bags goes to district heating, black bags goes to a local biogas fermenter unit, which produces pure methane and soil/fertilizer. The biogas serves some of the local buses, the soil/fertilizer goes back to the farms.

Landfills still exist in Sweden, but there aren't a lot of them, and I guess only non-usable trash like plaster, rock-wool insulation, fiberglass etc goes there.

There are discussions if the recycling system is wasteful, energywise, but people don't have to recycle, everything can go into burnable waste if they wish, although it would be illegal to put batteries and other hazardous waste there. Not that anyone would be caught, that is.

Anyway, the entire recycling system requires fossil fuels. Or maybe the biogas could be used to fuel the waste trucks in the future. I guess eventually people will burn their waste in the backyard, and you can imagine what that will do to the environment in the cities...

The upcoming shortage of fossil fuels will cause us to consume less, and therefore produce less waste, so it might play out nicely enough anyway.

When our youngest stops using diapers, we will switch to emptying the trashcan every four weeks, instead of two weeks as we do now. All biodegradable kitchen waste goes into our own composts and back into our vegetable patch.

The local council here in Hastings, New Zealand has a good system.

You can only put out 'official' orange plastic rubbish bags for collection, and you have to pay for the bags. Thus, the fewer the bags of rubbish you throw out, the cheaper it is.

What's even better is that the recycling collection is done on the same day as the rubbish collection. So you put all your 'rubbish' (or garbage for our US friends) out at the same time.

We have gone down from putting out one bag of (land-fill) rubbish a week, to only putting one out every 3 weeks. We now put out more recycling than rubbish.

By the way, there are lots of great rubbish-reducing ideas out there. After recycling, I would say composting is the biggest way to reduce the amount of 'waste' you throw out. And a really good suggestion I saw recently was to build a bird table, and then feed the birds your left-overs.