Good to see you here Glenn. I hope you make future contributions.

FYI, Glenn and I go back a ways. We have had peak oil discussions going back several years now. We are also both from small Oklahoma towns, both work in the oil industry, and were both raised as Creationists before shunning that belief as adults. So, we have found ourselves running in similar circles for a long time.

Now you let it out of the bag. My mother didn't know I was one of those evil oilmen. She thought I played piano in a house with red lights

http://home.entouch.net/dmd/Oilcrisis.htm

My mother didn't know I was one of those evil oilmen. She thought I played piano in a house with red lights

You must have read that book. Check out #9 this year from my reading list:

http://r2books.blogspot.com/

Very funny at times, but also very sobering at times.

Hadn't read the book, but heard that saying for my entire career in this business. I have been on enough rigs to know that my life expectancy, should I chose to work there would be about 10 minutes. Those places are dangerous--and I did have one very, very embarassing accident on a rig--luckily, I think I have squelched the story and no one knows anymore

http://home.entouch.net/dmd/Oilcrisis.htm

There are so many "scientists" who seem not to be able to shed Creationism who are brought up with it, or oddly enough, convert to it once they "see the light"--they do the inverse of what you two did! *blink* *blink* I am amazed that someone could actually get a biology degree and become a creationist. I would think the most demented logic would break down at some point, but it seems to hold water, per se.

I'm happy you guys made it out to to the non-provincial way of viewing the world! And here's to many more who shun childish beliefs once held, for we can only hope--since we can't convince. Discussing peak oil may be difficult, but trying to take away peoples fairy tales about existence is nearly impossible.

I'm surprised there isn't some "former Creationists against Creationism" organization... There must be one, right? I probably just don't know about it.

Michael Behe published his new book recently... What makes these people tick? I just don't understand it, at that level... Still, I guess sometimes the well educated classes can be the most dense, in many respects.

There are so many "scientists" who seem not to be able to shed Creationism who are brought up with it, or oddly enough, convert to it once they "see the light"--they do the inverse of what you two did!

I have seen polls suggesting that only about 1 in 1000 biologists are actually Creationists. It's just that they are very vocal, and are trotted out at every opportunity.