. When people bring up completely unrealistic schemes such as ethanol, there is always someone like yourself to jump up to defend them and "discuss" them in excruciating detail.

Yeah, but it is the purpose of this site to discuss the technicalities of things. We are not know-it-alls, and people may have big doubts. Perhaps someone remembers a killer fact, like "ethanol has very low EROEI and it will consume away food otherwise eaten". And then people discuss the veracity of it. That's reasonable. Rational.

But then a doomtard just comes and says. "We are fukin doomed, this just signals the bombers green light to nuke us all, see those russian bombers? See them? See them? Told ya! Told ya!". It's like listening to Bill O'Reilly, but backwards. Totally irrational. Come on! We could discuss if the bombings could be a choice, but how on Earth could we discuss it? Doesn't everyone understand that a nuclear war is a always LOST war, like, FOR FOREVER? Yeah, we could ramble about the stupidity of mankind, like Einstein did, but what's the point?

And mostly, I believe you can bring it here, for no one will censor you. So what are you rambling about? Problem is, I disagree of instilling desperation. People that instill it are, curiously, not that very desperate at all. I find that these kind of people are just so into their character that they've learned to appreciate the "power" that they believe their words cast like if they are some kind of prophets. They even believe that they are prophets. Their style of writing is also very similar, prophetic, evangelistical, the "all of your sins will be awashed in pain and sorrow" type, the Apocalypse Now. It's oh so christian-nuttie-like that even they don't realise the dumbiness of it. Been There, Done That A Couple Thousand Years Ago, Thank You, Don't Come Back. It's comparable to the idiots of "left behind", but rather than established in a faith-fact, somewhat "based" on science-facts. But the attitude is exactly the SAME.

Hell, even when someone does purely statistical analysis of the current situation, such as Stuart or Ace, there is great wailing and gnashing of teeth whenever the numbers indicate something worse than "acceptable". This is why the knee jerk reactions to the export land model, because it highlights extreme rapid change, change that you and your tribe refuse to accept and probably will continue to refuse to accept even if it actually happens, instead invoking your "gods" and wondering if you had just said the right incantations or the right prayers (made the right investments in technology) that things would have turned out ok.

Where are those knee-jerk reactions? This model is way scarier than the normal simplistic Peak Oil model, and it sounds pretty solid as such. I hope it turns out wrong, but I don't see how. So, yes, things will come out ugly. But to leap-frog and start a nuclear war about it is to deny history. 1973 was way farther of a nuclear war than 1961, which had nothing to do with oil. I Knee jerk react to these kinds of doom-it-all fuck-it-all "prophecies" which are nothing but a projection of our inner id desires to just smash up all the rest of the world.

We wouldn't want to even potentially admit to anything except our predicted happy ending, right?

Happy ending? Every time one comes here with a smug smile and "we'll work it out" attitude, one's completely bashed. Be real!

And calm yourself.