TOD Overlords,

Inevitably tone is lost in the written word. Having said that, here's my take on this:

Maybe now that you've had this "encounter" with a tentacle of the Iron Triange, it's time for you guys to realize you're never - and I do mean never - going to be accepted by the mainstream establishment no matter how many graphs and data you put up, no matter how airtight your arguments are, no matter how soberly and rigorously you present the issues.

Oh sure, you might get to headline the next ASPO gabfest or something but that's about it. For reasons already outlined by Jeff and other folks in this thread this info, no matter how soberly you present it, is never going to be accepted by the mainstream.

It's time to drop these hopes of maybe leveraging TOD into policy advisory positions or whatever it is you're hoping for deep down and start looking for a place to hunker down and prepare for the coming clusterfuck. There's not going to be any collective action . . . at least not the type you're thinking of.

I have a private list of 10-15 people I've gotten to know and trust over the years via LATOC. All of them are actively prepping and some of us are trying to figure out where to settle down, stock up on ammo and essentials, and basically prepare as best we can for what is coming. I would suggest you attempt to leverage TOD similarly. YOu've got a large enough readership you can probably find a core of 10-20 to connect with and make your plans. Or not . . .