re: "“Engel (NY) #73
The amendment to title IX would require new vehicles to be capable of operating on alcohol fuel, such as ethanol and methanol, and a range of other vehicle technologies.”

My questions about this are:

1) At what cost?

2) How is the cost absorbed?

3) Does this bias new vehicles to use "alcohol fuel", thus creating a demand for this fuel, which could become, in a real sense, an artifact of the legislation itself?

4) Are alcohol fuels a realistic solution for a large percentage of vehicles - (i.e., other than special use vehicles?)

So, my initial response would be "No". I'd be interested in others' opinion.

re: "Shimkus (IL) #23
“The amendment to title X mandates certain volumes of Alternative Fuels each year, including; renewable fuels, qualifying coal-derived liquid fuels, and fuels derived from biological materials, including natural gas, biogas, and others. In the year 2013, the motor vehicle and nonroad fuel sold or introduced into commerce in the United States would be required to contain 14 billion gallons of Alternative Fuel. By 2025, the applicable volume would rise to 35 billion gallons.”
YES: Prefer market driven, but better some than none to prepare for Peak Oil." (endquote)

Likewise, as the price of oil rises and/or shortages develop, the cost of so called "renewable fuels" will also rise.

As far as I can tell, the analysis shows only a small percentage of current gasoline use can be replaced by "alternative fuels".

Coal-derived liquid fuels - a good idea? It doesn't seem to be.

Do these measures only worsen the impact, if what we really need to do is to develop electricity-based transport?

I could see something along these lines with the qualification that such conversions be for special-use vehicles only: firetrucks, etc.

Does this bias new vehicles to use "alcohol fuel", thus creating a demand for this fuel, which could become, in a real sense, an artifact of the legislation itself?

This is exactly the sort of thing I am concerned about. The government, after hearing from proponents who suggest that we can run the country on alcohols:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.10/myths.html

(See point 3).

They then think they can pick technology winners, so they mandate them. Meanwhile, some bright scientist in a lab invents a way to make a high energy density fuel from biomass, yet it isn't an alcohol and has to compete against subsidized and mandated fuels. It is not the way to conduct an energy policy.

I fear, as energy prices continue to escalate, that we are going to be doomed to watching our politicians reinvent our energy policy every year or two (as they are doing now) in an attempt to fix a problem that they are only making worse by enacting the wrong policies.

Prediction: Two years from now, they are explaining to their constituents how they are going to pass a new energy bill to do something about those "damned oil companies and their $5/gallon gasoline." Meanwhile, the reason for $5/gal gasoline fails to sink in.