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So we should go back to the Gilded Age, when the entire gold-based economic system was so horribly rigged in favor of the rich that the bottom of the business cycle, then called "panics", would literally destroy the lives of the poor? So that cycle after cycle, a ratcheting effect put more and more wealth in the hands of the few?
You want to go back to the past because you expect to be one of the property-owning gangsters. If I were a poor renter in your tenement, your blessed deflation would cause my wages to collapse faster than my rent. Then your privatized coal companies would hike their prices in the winter, wiping out my savings. Then I would be in debtor's prison, no different than a privatized slave.
And then, sir, I would join a radical movement to blow your brains out. As millions of victims of hard-money capitalism did all over the world. Don't say "look at how bad that turned out" - they were STARVING right then, with no time for reasonable alternatives. Not that your predecessors ever came up with any besides moving West and murdering redskins to steal their land.
So don't bring back a past in which I would die or kill rather than endure. Isn't it interesting that with fiat currency or with a gold standard, the rich always find a way to get everything for themselves?
I should point out to both you and to RealMichigan that the past may not be relevant to the future. The nineteenth century was in a mode of exponential, FF-driven industrial growth. A stable money supply would actually be (and often was) deflationary in such circumstances. Of course, the gold supply was not always stable, as one gold rush after another would pump massive amounts of gold into the money supply. Thus, wild swings of inflation and deflation would occur. And yes, there were people ready to make the most of the opportunities that each swing presented, to the detriment of the more vulnerable members of society.
What we are facing in the future will be an inevitable, unavoidable, and unprecedented long-term economic decline, hopefully leveling off into a permanently sustainable zero-growth economy.
In a zero-growth sustainable economy, what you want is a stable money supply. Both inflation and deflation send misleading signals, and result in wrong economic decisions being made and resources being misallocated and wasted. In a zero-growth economy, nothing could be more harmful. Efficient use of resources becomes all-important, and a stable monetary value becomes essential to facilitate this.
In theory, I suppose that a gold standard could provide such a stable money supply. However, that assumes that we are all done with gold mining, and that none will be used up and lost. It also assumes that there are never any trade imbalances between any countries, and that there are no currency speculators. Those seem like big assumptions. It would seem to me that a better approach would be to simply fix the money supply at a specified amount and don't let it increase or decrease. This in turn would suggest that there would be little, if any, room for fractional reserve banking in a steady-state economy. Eliminate that, and a competently managed fiat currency would probably do the job just fine.
Sounds like a muslim economy.
For good reason, no doubt. They still have remnants of the stead-state economy of the ancient world.
The exception is that there can be and actually should be interest charged for money borrowed. In a steady-state, zero-growth economy, all assets must be used efficiently, and that means that all assets must have a rental value. That includes money. Interest is just the name we apply to the rent we charge for the use of money. If any asset has no rent charged for its use, then that asset is considered to be "free", and can be used or abused to one's heart's content. A zero-growth economy can't afford that, because it can't afford to replace assets that are wasted.
Muslim Banks do not engage in Usury. Sharia Law prohibits charging/paying interest. There is also an injunction against excessive risk taking. (probably as that would be considered gambling)
http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20061129-083353-2138r
http://www.misysbanking.com/files/file5375_Islamic%20banking%20flyer%20P...