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I am far more concerned about climate change in the long run, though I think peak oil and gas may be worse crises in the short run. Looks to me like we have enough fossil fuels to get us to a 2C tipping point with the potential from there to have run-away positive feedbacks related to the loss of polar ice and methane emissions from soil. Very difficult to model where this would head because the science is weak on soil-vegetation dynamics and the speed of polar ice melt.
Lucky for us, the solution to both problems is the same.
1) Conserve. Cut our energy needs thus prolonging our supply of oil and coal. Cut our 'nasty' emissions by burning less fossil fuel.
A watt of power that we don't consume is one that we don't have to generate and "one watt" less pollution.
2) Get more 'green' energy on line. Same results, plus building for an oil-free future. Or at least for a future in which we use oil only when absolutely necessary.
So we build less efficient windmills, PV panels, wave generators than what we might be able to build 10, 20 years from now. Big F-ing deal. Right now we can build 'good enough to make a difference'. And that will give us some breathing space to make better devices down the road.
We can recycle those old mills and panels when the energy required to recycle is substantially less than that which would be created by the new mills/panels.
Time to fire up the plants and crank out some green goodies.
IMHO.
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edit:
Let's throw another problem into the mix, along with global warming and 'peaking stuff': Health.
We're spending a lot of money because we're dumping so much 'nasty' into the air. We're hurting a lot of people. We're hurting a lot of growing things.
Getting more green power on line has (at least) a triple payoff.
Decreasing the power of certain oil producing nations and reversing some cash flow problems might be a couple more reasons....
The prospect of the arctic being ice-free within the next decade stuns me. It's another order of magnitude (sort of) rate of increase in the rate of increase.
There is this snippet from Kolbert's "Field Notes from a Catastrophe":
I'd never thought of it that way but had focused on "what is the right paradigm" and how important it might be to jump to it directly. The requirement for a radically changing series of adaptations pretty well shoots holes in all the lifeboats. Restructuring our entire resource base decade over decade just to keep up - not going to happen.
cfm in Gray, ME
"The prospect of the arctic being ice-free within the next decade stuns me"
Why? It's been free in the past. Even back as far as 1880 a ship made it ice free from the Pacific to the Atlantic. Also in 1944 a wooden RCMP boat on patrols made it through there ice free on several trips across the top.
It's not a problem.
Richard
London, Ont.
No one is ahead of their time, just the rest of humanity is slow to catch on.
You appear to be confused. We are not talking about the northwest passage, which are the trips to which you refer and which, by the way, were not completely ice free. No, we are talking about the entire arctic, all of it, every stinking square inch of ocean, being ice free. If you fail to understand the impact of that, then you need to refresh your understanding of the topic.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Dr. Albert Bartlett
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