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Bob, are you suggesting a communal action by and for the people of the earth? Personally I think that is a great idea but I doubt it will fly on Pennsylvania Ave or Wall St. The 'new' America, like gilded age America, cannot stand the thought of any idea the least bit socialistic (cooperative). As we sit here typing our dear political and economic leaders are doing all in their power to dismantle the remnants of FDRs legacy. Since their attempts to privatize social security and medicare/caid did not fly they will simply inflate the dollar to the point that these programs will be meaningless...Then they will be able to claim that since the programs are meaningless they should be scrapped in favor of _____ ...fill in the blank.
River,
That pendelum swing is over, we are on the return.
But kids these days haven't been educated in acting communally. So we need to make suggestions and remind them that its a possibility.
Bob Ebersole
I think you're certainly tapping the nail on the head here... most people in the 15-35 range (and many in the 35-45 range) just seem to have no schooling, or life experience, in working together or helping each other. It is quite shocking.
Now this is relevant to growing up in the UK, but the US cannot have been THAT different...
I guess I grew up with parents who were born and grew up just after the war, and grandparents who were part of that "greatest generation". As a result I grew up with stories of rationing (which was only phased out as my parents were younger), and pulling together. There was a communal spirit that sort of faded...
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All these memories will be lost in time
like tears in rain
The United States is a failing empire. When the state provides no value to the nation the state's currency collapses. I'm not talking about the dollar, I'm talking about goodwill on the part of the citizens. Bush has burned 80% of the electorate to the point where they'd be happy to see him cuffed, stuffed, and set adrift in hopes the North Atlantic Drift will carry him to the Hague. While he is a lightning rod it is the bankrupt ideology he represents that so irritates the people.
Assuming they don't completely crash the economy and put us into martial law so we can continue to thrive under Great Leader's marvelous decision making the citizens of this country are going to clean house in 2008, perhaps handing the presidency as well as a two thirds majority in both houses to the Democratic party. They're only a different flavor of the same problem, mind you, but with constant heat and voter involvement they'll move. A good bit of that heat will come from the triumvirate of PO, AGW, and ARM scam, and perhaps we get another New Deal.
or
the political establishment, corporate media et al will take the PO, AGW and ARM scam resultant problems and blame them on the Democrats causing a quick shift back...
the interests against a new New Deal are much more powerful and entrenched than before IMHO
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All these memories will be lost in time
like tears in rain
After Stephen Colbert goes on to landslide the state of South Carolina in the primaries (both Republican and Democratic tickets, of course), perhaps he'll register for the other states primaries and sweep the nation.
IMO people are going to be surprised. The socially responsible form of business in western Europe worked for a long time, but it will soon collapse in many countries due to the mass of unemployable third world immigration.
This is why the left is so rabid for immediate implementation of their agenda, the leaders are smart and know exactly that soon their model will be shown to be a utter failure.
It is very simple, one can not have half the people producing and half the people using. Once a critical mass of users is achieved, the producers in ever larger numbers will take the easy way out and join the users.
This is the real tragedy in our country, we have not reached Peak users.