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Speaking about that 'spiritual pain' you dismiss so easily.
Let me tell you a true story..then..
I was driving down the two lane blacktop back to my farm..sorta out in the country but at least 6 houses are on my way so its not that isolated...and most of the joining fields are being farmed...
There are a few curves and as I came upon one a pickup passed me going in the opposite direction with a young boy and what looked to be his girlfriend in the seat next to him and she was looking at him with mirth on her face and he appeared to be struck with a smile or smirk..couldn't tell which..
The traffic doesn't go so fast that one can't see faces..
As I rounded the curve that they had passed me the other side of I saw what they had been up to...a possum was slowly dragging what was left of the back of its body towards the side of the road..and some brush there..its back side had been flattened by the pickups tires..it had just happened.
I was going rather slow at the time and it a split second I saw the agony on the face of the possum, remember the glee shown on the girls face as she appeared to be staring at her hero , the young guy who had shown her his driving skills and regard for other flesh..another very gentle creature , who is so shy that if you approach one it will roll up and pretend to be dead..'playing possum'.
I was instantly struck with 'spiritual pain' of the incident and the lifeform which was desperately trying to attain the roadside and the protective brush..and it would then crawl into the brush and spend possibly many hours dying a slow and painful death.
So that to me was a watershed event..the 'spiritual pain' was real and immediate.
I live among nature..my house and barn right next to the woods..my dogs catch and kill small chipmunks and sometimes many moles..but they do that as part of nature..
Does man then kill indiscriminately and consider himself to be 'part of nature'? I don't think so..I consider that truck to be filled with ignorant worthless assholes of the worst sort.
To this day that visage remains with me and will never depart. I have had similiar experiences when I killed a doe and her spike buck when I never needed the meat. After I shot the doe and then shot the spike buck as it stood there, I shot it badly and as it lay on the ground it kept raising its head to look over at the doe..I never hunted deer again after that..I had learned. I administered the death shot with a pistol to its brain. I did it out of mercy but again it doesn't leave me..this remembrance.
I have seen men in trucks ride the countryside with a rifle in the window..and came by my place and idly shot a buzzard out of a tree in my field and continued on ..they were just wanting target practice.
The buzzards and possum clean up the messes we leave on our roads and highways. They can never hurt people ..they are beneficial.
That for me is the reality of what you dismiss..spiritual pain...
I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for all the slaughter of wild forms or life that are occuring minute by minute on our highways and roads..just so we can go faster and not give a shit about what happens either..if they go under our wheels most don't give a damn...some run over turtles just to hear them 'pop'..my brother in law loved to do that...I never speak to the slob..he recently had a massive heart attack and became a vegetable..I figured he might recall how many other lives he took for his glee. One young girl I know of in a car accident he was responsible for. The slug.
airdale-without some spiritual pain how does one know whether they are really in step with life? Or even exist as sentient beings of value? I will kill another life if I need the food desperately or they are attacking me..otherwise I leave nature to its own devices..and I allow NO ONE to hunt on my land. No one.
Hey, I don't personally dismiss that pain, but in a way your post confirmed what I suggested: many people do dismiss it and don't think twice about hurting animals and destroying the environment.
But I'm with you on this one. I refuse to visit a good friend of mine in the country because his wife insists that he kill any viper that strays near their house. Vipers around here are not dangerous, and just like possums and buzzards there, they are actually quite beneficial. And I think they're beautiful. I also love seagulls, even though I don't know anybody else in Helsinki who more than just barely tolerates them. Last spring and early summer I had a chance to watch fledglings grow up near my window, and that was a wonderful experience.
I think you just misunderstood my point, which was that this film is not going to impress people who are not already worried about peak oil, climate change etc. The rest of us will find it quite inspiring.
I think he was replying to me?
Well, my post was more an elaborate, "Speak For Yourself." I don't deny that other people have "spiritual pain". I mean, how could I? I am just suggesting that it is not a generalized human predicament, and that, perhaps, nothing important on a large scale can be obtained from that sort of analysis.
Saw a quote along those lines today:
ChrisN
Bite your tongue! You would quote a giant like Albert Schweitzer in this landscape of drawfs who think they are giants?
Schweitzer did not bow to the forces of nature, and waste away the learning that 4000 years of civilization provided to him. Instead, he took it, he took the tools that are scoffed at and treated like garbage here on this forum, science, art, literature, philosophy, ethics, and medicine, and propeled them into the Heart Of Darkness, into this great "nature" which was devouring human beings who did not know how to contest it, Schweitzer personally not only endorsed civilization, he WAS civilization. To quote such a man, a man of WILL, a man of INTELLECT, a CHRISTIAN MAN in the truest ethical sense, in this place is almost a sacrilage.
By the way, if you didn't notice, I am a fan of Albert Schweitzer, and everything he stood for. He only makes me angry in one way: He so outshines us average slobs that it is embarrassing to think about! :-)
RC
That pickup truck gave that boy authority. He had to demonstrate that he could use it.
Thet rifle gave that man in the truck authority over another life form. He had to demonstrate that he could use it.
As I type this, I have just been given notice from my city that they are unhappy I have recovered some brick and stacked it around some bushes in my yard, behind a fence. They want me to move it to where it can't be seen from the street.
They are unhappy with the desert jade plant I planted all over because of our Southern California water shortage. Even though I have been able to drop my water usage to about 1000 cubic feet per two month billing cycle, they are more concerned that I have left dead leaves around the bushes. I need those leaves there to keep what little water that is in the soil from being boiled off by our hot sun.
I am trying to conserve, but it ain't easy if it isn't what everyone else is doing. How long before I get a complaint that I hang my laundry on a rope in my back yard to dry?
Most of my neighbors cut down the trees on their property years ago. I am the holdout on my block and have several on my property. I love my two big Eucylyptus trees despite the fact they drop lots of branches every time we get a Santa Ana wind blow through. My neighbor nixed his matching pair of trees about five years ago.
Enormous disparity in the income we each live on fuels a raging "keep up with the Jones" thing, whereas if one of us falls behind on our consumption, the "bitty from the city" is called up to issue a "demand to comply" letter.
Although I would LIKE to conserve, its difficult to get permission to do so. As an engineer, I am well aware of the BTU's consumed and carbon dioxide released into our atmosphere to make the brick. That's why I recovered it, as I felt it was too valuable to throw away.
I have reserved sufficient funds to commission a local brick artisan to build me some brickwork with it, but I need to wait for the upcoming recession so I do not compete against everyone else for the artist. The artist will really need the work as well.
But it looks like I will be forced to throw the brick away just because someone else doesn't like seeing it in my yard.
Yup, yet more fuel to make useless haul to the dump. The only upside being getting approval from the bitty from the city. The downside being I won't get my brick planters and the artisan will not get the money I reserved for him.
Yet, others are free to buy cars that won't fit in their driveway, forcing me to walk out in the street to get around them. But if I have bricks stacked in my own yard? Oh, its a terrible eyesore. Its construction materials visible from the street!
Other people can have an old wagon wheel in their front yard, and that's OK. But my stack of brick? NO!
And all sorts of stuff about "trimming" plants. I wonder if its my tomato bushes she's demanding that I remove?
The State may exhort how dire our water crisis is, but they don't have the authority to cause me financial pain like the "bitty from the city" can. Nobody's gonna hold a bitty from the city personally financially responsible for demands she issues to citizens like me to pour water all over the ground to make up for the leaves I removed as per her request.
It seems a lot easier to tell the farmers to make do with less water. Besides if the City needs more money for her to hire her own gardener, they can just raise our water rates again.
I have to go with who has the authority. She does. All the State can do is tell me that I need to conserve. I can see the lakes dry. I can TRY to conserve and do things in a minimal energy use way, but I can not override the authority of the bitty from the city. As a community, we are forced to PAY for someone to butt in and tell us NOT to conserve.
The City CAN and WILL ding my property any assessment they wish.
I know I shouldn't use TOD to vent personal frustration, but please forgive me. I am mad, and feel so damned helpless. It seems every attempt I make to try to save resources is met with "order to comply" from the City demanding I waste them - for mere appearance's sake.
There is no-one at the State or Federal level on my side with any authority to help me stand my ground when it comes to wasting resources. All I am seeing is needless enforced consumption. It takes a lot more than convincing people that there are other ways to live, it takes convincing those who have the authority to demand us to live otherwise. Unfortunately, those guys literally write their own paycheck and don't have the constraints the governed do.
Steve.
Sort of what happened with the dam beavers. :=)
http://www.getipm.com/personal/dam.htm
That's just hilarious, thank you! And the bit about bears defecating in the woods, ROTFLMAO
Thanks. I need something to laugh at.
Still, he is responsible for what the beavers do on his land just as I am responsible for my bushes growing.
I don't want to tangle with City Hall until I find someone yet higher up who will go to bat for me. Someone with the authority to take the settlement right out of their paychecks, just as easy as City Hall can assess my property.
I am just trying to let Nature alone, at least on what I thought was MY property. I recognize every square inch of foliage is busy sequestering carbon from our smoggy air.
I hate like the dickens to kill it just because someone else doesn't like the way it looks. I can't force anyone to get rid of their Hummer because I consider it a resource hog. The City will let them have their Hummer regardless of how much the sight of such conspicuous consumption bothers me, but I can't have my bushes because the sight of my bushes bothers them?
Before people like me can grow gardens, dry our clothes on clotheslines, or stockpile energy intensive building materials for later use, we need to seriously consider how much authority we grant those who can tell us we can't.
I wish I had the authority to make the one who has the authority to force me to cut my bushes down - clean the air in its place. But even the Federal people don't have that kind of power. All they can do is issue advisories.
People like me are quite powerless to do anything about it.
Its been my experience that Nature knows exactly what to do. I am very reticent to interfere.
When I first moved here, it wasn't much of a problem. Rich people moved in and they have the money and connections to change things.
If there is anything that irks me off where I live, its not that I do not have enough money, its that others have way way way too much money - and the ability to force me into their lifestyle.
I don't need much money. I just need people to let me be.
Why do they have such a need to come rattle my cage?
I feel I should be writing letters to the California Department of Agriculture and asking them why they are letting the cities get off scot free on wasting water when they need it for growing food? I feel our city needs to get a few "orders to comply" since they have the gall to hire someone to harass those of us who are trying to conserve and tell us not to.
Someone at the State or Federal level needs to give people like me some teeth so we can bite back and cause economic pain to those keeping us from trying to conserve. Personal economic pain. Pain they can't forward to the community at large.
I was hoping by now, there would be more awareness and appreciation for those conserving so that others may have what I didn't throw away.
How much higher does oil need to go before those in power consider it to have any value?
Steve
You think it's bad now....how would like to live even closer together, and closer still, in the inner city worker slums and common wall massive apartment blocks that Kunstler and the "re densify" fanatics dream of?
How much "freedom" to be different you think you will have in those?
RC
RC,
I think at that point, I would not worry about it anymore, as I would have no outdoor area as "mine".
Already, I fear that the City will find out about the experimental lithium bromide solar absorber I am building in my back yard and make me remove it, and I wouldn't put it past them being they are complaining about the bricks I got for some planters.
The biddie is paid enough by the city she doesn't have to worry about whether or not she will be able to afford enough energy to cool her home. Her lofty salary and secure employment of the city insulates her from the realities of nature. Her needs can be met by increasing tax levies on the rest of us.
As far as the absorber goes, its a prototype, made with four pieces of 4" black iron pipe, but unfortunately it has to be about six feet high to get the gravitic gradient I need to make its gravitic pumps work. The whole thing is designed to run on sunlight, cooling water, and gravity, requiring minimal mechanical energy input. On paper, it works fine, but before I get anyone else involved, I want a working model to get empirical data so I can have some confidence that this actually works, as well as having a live hands-on demo for any partners who I invite to mass produce it. Its my hope this technology can be scaled up to cool shopping malls, as I have seen the mall in my neck of the woods have refrigeration problems in the heat of summer and it was not fun. I shudder at the power draw.
The bricks the biddie is complaining about are for the planters I want to build... I have not completely figured out yet how I need them built as I will be using the planter as an evaporative cooler, using plant's leaves like the "slats" of a conventional cooling tower. It will take 90F water and drop it to 80F or so - but at a pretty good flow rate so I can dump BTU from the condenser to it. I am sure I can find some tropical plants which would just love to have warm water sprinkled over them on hot days. As an added bonus, they will likely give me some fruit as well. The purpose of the planter is to confine the liquid water which I sorely need to recycle back to the condenser heat exchanger.
I flat do not have the money to go rent industrial space to do my tinkering. I am a laid-off engineer who worked at a refinery for the earlier part of my career, and taking care of the absorber that kept our LNG tanks cool was part of my job. I still have a lot of stuff on that old absorber, and I am trying to reconfigure its innards so I can use thermal energy from the sun, rather than steam, to run it.
By now, I am an old hippie longhair - not fit at all for the corporate life. I just want to do my art away from the Dilbert Pointy-Haired-Boss. My art has always been an obsession with me - like sports is to darned near everyone else. All this authority around me is driving me nuts. It is hell to know I can do something about the impending energy crisis, but everyone around me is so concerned with useless trivia - and have legal teeth to force me to waste my resources.
I am almost 60. I am about ready to throw the whole shebang in the trash can and give the City what they demand ... a nice lawn. The city despises an old engineer trying to come up with some way of keeping everyone's house cool on the advent of global warming, but they are willing to pay for someone to hinder me. Such a deal for our tax dollar.
By the time we find out electricity is $50/kwh, its gonna be too late.
Steve
Perhaps you can find an attorney who understands what you're trying to do, who would be willing to write some letters for you pro bono, to get the city off your back and start to educate them about xeriscaping, etc.? Try making some phone calls to the local water authority too, & get a letter of support from them that makes you out to be a model citizen for the rest of your water-wasting neighborhood? You can't wait for somebody to show up and go to bat for you, but if you fight for your right position, I'll bet you find some unlikely allies...
--C
Energy consultant, writer, blogger www.getreallist.com
Learn about the law. It's pretty simple and it's all in books. Learn how to draft pleadings on your own. Sue the city. Repeatedly. Claim your rights under the State and Federal Constitutions. (First Amendment, Fourteenth Amendment) Look at the case law, cite cases that support your side and tell the court what the differences are in cases that don't support you. Cases that bind the courts where you live: US Supreme Court binds all courts, State Supreme Court binds your state courts (district courts, appeals courts, State Supreme court), State Appeals courts bind State Appeals courts and district courts, and district court decisions (when published) bind themselves.
Get State agencies involved. Become a nightmare for the city: a litigious citizen who knows his/her rights and won't hestitate to defend them. Avoid Common Law "lawyers" and Freeman-types, don't cite the Bible as binding authority, and don't invoke the Great God Jehovah in support of your cause. As time goes on, you will become as practiced in this as any lawyer. Remember, you can serve as your own attorney - you just can't represent anyone else. And if you know any sympathetic attorneys, you can always ask them to review your work...
try these links:
http://www.halt.org/newsletters/12_01_2003.htm
http://www.washlaw.edu/lawcat/
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/
Wow. It sounds like they're totally clueless.
When I was at the Detroit Institute of Arts about 15 years ago, I saw a young couple coming out laughing from a room exhibiting 15th century wooden sculpture, most of it of a religious nature. You could tell they had just done something outrageous. I went in and saw a fresh wad of gum stuck on the nose of one of the sculptures, a 600 year old wooden sculpture. That was a moment of my spiritual pain. Even as a child, such an action would have been unthinkable. I look back and wish I had immediately sought out security and had them confronted with their action. It is the fault of their upbringing. I certainly hope it is not a fault of their generation which would be in their late 30's now. It does show that there are those out there who will act in a way contrary to anything you could imagine possible. Preconcieved notions of what people are capable of, in the post oil world, could be fatal.
"It does show that there are those out there who will act in a way contrary to anything you could imagine possible."
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A Hartlepool man is facing jail after he urinated on a disabled woman who lay dying in the street.
The 27-year-old shouted "this is YouTube material" as he degraded Christine Lakinski, 50, who had fallen ill, magistrates heard.
Miss Lakinski, who suffered a number of medical conditions, died from natural causes, an inquest found.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/7002627.stm