Yes - I've noticed this myself - the real key is reduction in carbon emissions (and from a peak oil point of view, reduction in hydrocarbon consumption).
George Monbiot is just about the only commentator I see regularly saying "we need to reduce emissions by 60% by 2030" (or whatever his numbers are) instead of "20% renewables by 2020" or "50% renewables by 2050".
Do you have a link for the Fremantle gasification project you mentioned ? Is that the Rio / BP one (I have a vague recollection of them announcing one earlier in the year).
I'm not a believer in clean coal at all but the Bass Strait experiment seems to be the most likely to go ahead. I'm told piping the carbon dioxide is also problematical over long distances as it is highly corrosive (I think the Norwegians have had a lot of problems at Sleipner but I haven't tracked that project for the last couple of years).
geonic Hi biggav. I probably saw the same news items as you did re the WA project-last heard of as abandoned due to lack of nearby sequestration sites. The reality is ( I think) that some engineers got hold hold of it and showed it to be a load of rubbish, put up as some feelgood PR.
I am certainly no fan of 'clean coal'.
The other good one - also gone without trace- was the SANTOS plan to collect CO2 from around eastern and southern Australia and pipe it up to the Cooper Basin. That would have been a real winner.
These sort of schemes give one the feeling that reality distortions are taking place to accomodate the BAU scenario.
Yes - I've noticed this myself - the real key is reduction in carbon emissions (and from a peak oil point of view, reduction in hydrocarbon consumption).
George Monbiot is just about the only commentator I see regularly saying "we need to reduce emissions by 60% by 2030" (or whatever his numbers are) instead of "20% renewables by 2020" or "50% renewables by 2050".
Do you have a link for the Fremantle gasification project you mentioned ? Is that the Rio / BP one (I have a vague recollection of them announcing one earlier in the year).
I'm not a believer in clean coal at all but the Bass Strait experiment seems to be the most likely to go ahead. I'm told piping the carbon dioxide is also problematical over long distances as it is highly corrosive (I think the Norwegians have had a lot of problems at Sleipner but I haven't tracked that project for the last couple of years).
geonic Hi biggav. I probably saw the same news items as you did re the WA project-last heard of as abandoned due to lack of nearby sequestration sites. The reality is ( I think) that some engineers got hold hold of it and showed it to be a load of rubbish, put up as some feelgood PR.
I am certainly no fan of 'clean coal'.
The other good one - also gone without trace- was the SANTOS plan to collect CO2 from around eastern and southern Australia and pipe it up to the Cooper Basin. That would have been a real winner.
These sort of schemes give one the feeling that reality distortions are taking place to accomodate the BAU scenario.