I live in Fort Smith NWT, a small community downstream from the Alberta Tar Sands. Fort Smith is situated on the Slave River, [whose major tributaries include the Athabasca and the Peace Rivers, both of which have oil sands deposits], and marks the boundary between the North West Territories [NWT] and Alberta.

Certain rights for First Nations are in the Canadian constitution, these include things such as [right to hunt, fish, trap, etc] on traditional lands. If a First Nation can demonstrate the "nature and extent," of an impact to these rights, they have the grounds to take the party responsible to court, and have these impacts mitigated. And yes i recognize that their are some difficulties associated with this process, but properly done can result in some positive change. [ex: the gate house to the road to CZN's prarie creek mine to keep hunters out of certain prime habitat]

The First Nations in the NWT are way more organized and politicized than most people think, and are already starting to take aim at the oil sands. [the majority of the people in the NWT live in the Mackenzie watershed, which includes the tar sands].

These court cases and cross boundary demands for consultation will have an interesting impact on how the development of the tar sands proceed. For the crown has a legal obligation to take these rights into consideration. And no matter how badly the Alberta government would like to ignore these the courts will always force them to. Thank my lucky starts that our supreme court judges are elected hacks.

This summer we had a large gathering in Fort Smith concerning water use. The NWT will never let water become a commodity, the FN's basically have access to it guaranteed to them in the constitution.

Hello Taiga Cowboy,

As editor of TOD:Canada, I'd be very interested to hear more about your part of the country. Could you email me at Stoneleigh(at)theoildrum(dot)com please?

Considering what the Oil Sands represents to the "current" Alberta Economy, Canadian Economy & US Economy. I still would not trust the courts or the constitution's abilities to uphold the FN's "guaranteed" rights to clean and abundant fresh water.

Here in British Columbia, the Liberal Gov't is changing legislation to suit their's and their supporter's greed. And it is widely recongnized that Alberta's former Premier Klein's political handlers have played a hand in advising Premier Gordon Campbells Gov't on how to deal with anyone who opposes them. They play a no-holds-barred type of politics. And thats not even to mention George W's biggest admirer north of the 49th, Stephen Harper!

I do and will support the FN's rights. But the current existing political paradigms do not respectfully do so.

Uranium is currently very important to the world economy at the moment and look at the massive exploration projects that were shut out of the Thelon Basin due to the rights of FN's.

But yes the oil sands are on a completely different scale.

But you will be delighted to know that the upper limits of oil sands water use will ultimately be due to the seasonal fluctuation in the water levels of the Athabasca River. She can get pretty low in the winter. Sometimes as low as 50 cubic meters per second.

http://www.wsc.ec.gc.ca/hydat/H2O/index_e.cfm?cname=graph.cfm

Even in the summer now that we're spending our reserves [glaciers in the Jasper area] faster than we can replenish them. I'm no hydrologist but, it shouldn't be too far off that we see low summer flows once most of the glaciers are gone.

So how much water are the Oil Sands using? It almost sounds like they are about to run out of water in the Athabasca? Where do they pipe water from next?

Back to the FN's though. If push comes to shove, what is the feeling up there, will they sell out for the right price? A moot point, wouldn't you think.