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Excellent post.
It just shows how interconnected everything is and it fundamentally comes down to lifestyle issues in conjection with the number of people.
Everything is interconnected for sure! I have often been bemused by all the effort being applied to trying to convert cellulose to alcohol to burn that as car fuel. Why not convert the cellulose(possibly switch grass) to stove pellets and use pellet stoves to displace natural gas from home heating. Then that natural gas could be compressed and used for vehicle fuel. All at fairly high efficency and without some new invention(Cellulose to ethanol) that may or may not ever work. But then, a lot of grants and University funding might be lost. Pork-barrels explain too much of our energy policy!
Or use the stove pellets to fuel the cars! Google "Producer Gas" -- that's how civilian cars still got around in Nazi-occupied Europe.
Use the pellets to run a stationary cogenerator and heat the house with the waste heat. Use the electricity to charge batteries to run the car. Voila, a two-fer!
Remember that you need more fuel to do that though. It's a two-fer but not a freebee. If you used the electricity in the house then you'd get all the energy as heat. Seems to me that you do better using wind or solar and leave the plants to themselves.
Chris
It's not free (especially the hardware) unless you compare to e.g. ethanol/biodiesel; with biofuels, you get less energy at the wheels and no space heat at all.
Unless the cogenerator is very inefficient or the building is very well-insulated (by today's standards), the electricity production will often exceed demand. If you just turn it into heat, you've used a lot of hardware to do the job of a flame.
Cogeneration can produce "something from nothing". Suppose your alternatives are a 95%-efficient furnace or a cogenerator which yields 30% as electricity, 65% as heat and 5% losses. You can run 1/3 of the electric output through a heat pump with a CoP of 3 and have the same 95% of the fuel's energy as space heat, plus you have 20% of the fuel's energy as electricity.
If the developing solid-oxide fuel cell technology can be turned to domestic use, cogenerator efficiency could hit 50%. A therm of gas could create 1/2 therm of heat, plus 14.64 kWh of electricity. 14.64 kWh of electricity into heat pumps achieving 3:1 (far from the best available) would produce another 1.5 therms of heat; the system would effectively double the gas supply. Or you could settle for making up the balance of 1 therm of heat and putting 9.76 kWh of electricity into a PHEV. At 200 Wh/mi, you'd get close to 50 miles out of that energy. That would displace roughly a gallon (115,000 BTU, or more than 1 therm) of liquid motor fuel even in a Prius.
No, there is no magic in this. Energy is conserved, and the efficiency figures have been demonstrated. All it does is refuse to give in to entropy too easily.
Seems to me you're not seeing the whole picture.
Nate,
Sorry to see that you still have OLD information. I thought from the title we would be treated to a revised and update article.
How about in your next update you include some of the new technology in wood burning. Start your re-education here:
Burn it Smart!
http://www.ec.gc.ca/cleanair-airpur/Campagne_chauffage_au_bois-WS69573E1...
The videos are very good:
Harvesting:
Firewood, from the Forest to the Shed. Note John address the issue of softwoods vs. hardwoods.
How to light and operate a woodstove.
Note the woodstove is being fueled with Poplar. They also address the pollution issue.
Advanced Woodstove Technology.
Note the side-by-side operational comparison between old tech and new tech wood stove.
-- Brandy
I'll check it out - though wood burning, unless done by a city, like Burlington, can only be done by a small % of population that don't live in concentrated areas. Id have to do a study on that but clearly everyone in Boston and NYC cant use those woodstoves. But people who do burn wood would benefit from the newer technologies for sure - my fireplace is probably only 20-25% efficient (Im serious). On the to-do list for next year.
Thanks for the link - I'll try and incorporate that in next iteration, though I expect to be working on the demand side for the next good while (except for some almost finished EROI stuff)
Nate,
When asked about wood burning I first ask how much sweat are they willing to put in. Do they want a fire to look at or to keep warm with.
Then my recommendations are:
* Gas fireplace insert, or zero clearance FP install.
* Wood pellets if they have the storage.
That takes care of 98% of the people who ask.
* Then cordwood and what type of stove.
In the last few years I have been getting my firewood from the local "suburban" forrest. There are many mature trees being removed and storm damage trees that would just go for waste that can be used for cordwood. This last season the local arborist would drop off a tree about every three weeks. These were only good clean burning trees. Very nice! I could not store all he had.
IF you live in New England here is a new product that is taking off like "wild fire": http://www.biopellet.net/
These are "BioBricks" basicly wood pellets for a cordwood stove. They are suppose to be much better than the usual compressed logs.
And winter time smoke pollution has become a seriuos issue. If you follow the links back on my previous post you will see what Canada is doing. Since I live in the suburbs I try to make as little smoke as possible.
Since I converted my fireplace to woodstove insert I would never have another fireplace. If building a house I would use a freestanding woodstove. Go to the woodheat.org site or hearth.com there are number of papers there, some talk about fireplace efficiency, depending upon construction a fireplace can be a net heat LOSS.
-- Brandy
WRT woodstove technology, one thing that is absolutely essential, IMHO, is outside combustion air ducting. This increases efficiency substantially, because you are not pulling already-heated interior air into the woodstove for combustion. It is also hugely safer, because you virtually eliminate the danger of backdrafts and carbon monoxide.
It is surprising that some woodstoves STILL haven't incorporated this very simple feature, even at this late date.