134 comments on Home Heating in the USA: A Comparison of Forests with Fossil Fuels
Comments can no longer be added to this story.
134 comments on Home Heating in the USA: A Comparison of Forests with Fossil Fuels
Comments can no longer be added to this story.
The contents below are paid advertisements. Their appearance does not imply an endorsement by The Oil Drum.
“Considering the many productive uses of petroleum, burning it for fuel is like burning a Picasso for heat.”
—Big Oil Executive
Search The Oil Drum with Google
User login
Contact
- Content: editors at theoildrum dot com
- Tech support: support at theoildrum dot com
Personnel
- Editors: Prof. Goose, Heading Out, Stuart Staniford, Nate Hagens
- DrumBeat Editor: Leanan
- Contributors: ace, Engineer-Poet, Gail the Actuary, jeffvail, JoulesBurn, Khebab, Robert Rapier
- TOD:Local: Glenn
- TOD:Europe: Chris Vernon, Euan Mearns, Francois Cellier, Jerome a Paris, Luís de Sousa, Rembrandt, Rune Likvern, Ugo Bardi
- TOD:Canada: benk, Libelle
- TOD:ANZ: Big Gav, Phil Hart, aeldric
- Technician: Super G
Recently on TOD:World
TOD:Local
- Summer Streets a Success!
- Plan for Hydro-Fracture Drilling for Unconventional Natural Gas in Upstate New York
- Enjoying Life Close to Home: Fun Streets
TOD:Europe
- UK Energy Flow Chart 2007
- Brown pretends to be tough on Russia
- Russian gas and European energy security - a reprise
TOD:Canada
- Compressed Air Energy Storage - How viable is it?
- Oil Megaproject Update (July 2008)
- Weekend Energy Listening: Wind Power with Paul Gipe
TOD:ANZ
Peak Oil Primers
Blogroll
Energy Sites
- The Coming Global Oil Crisis
- Die Off
- Dry Dipstick
- Energy Bulletin
- From the Wilderness
- Life After the Oil Crash
- Peak Oil Crisis
- Peak Oil News and Message Boards
- Powerswitch
- Rigzone
- Matthew Simmons
- Wolf at the Door
Environment & Sustainability Sites
- The Daily Green
- EcoGeek
- Eco Street
- Green Car Congress
- Green Options
- green.alltop.com
- Gristmill
- RealClimate
- Sustainablog
- Treehugger
- WorldChanging
Blogs
- The Big Picture
- Casaubon's Book
- Cleantech Blog
- Clusterf
k Nation (Jim Kunstler) - The Cost of Energy
- Ecological Economics
- David Strahan
- Econbrowser
- The Energy Blog
- Entropy Production
- Environmental Economics
- European Tribune
- GraphOilology
- jeffvail.net
- The Mess That Greenspan Made
- Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis
- Mobjectivist
- Peak Energy (Australia)
- Peak Energy (USA)
- R-Squared
- Resource Insights
Organizations
License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.






GAIA Host Collective
Or use the stove pellets to fuel the cars! Google "Producer Gas" -- that's how civilian cars still got around in Nazi-occupied Europe.
Use the pellets to run a stationary cogenerator and heat the house with the waste heat. Use the electricity to charge batteries to run the car. Voila, a two-fer!
Remember that you need more fuel to do that though. It's a two-fer but not a freebee. If you used the electricity in the house then you'd get all the energy as heat. Seems to me that you do better using wind or solar and leave the plants to themselves.
Chris
It's not free (especially the hardware) unless you compare to e.g. ethanol/biodiesel; with biofuels, you get less energy at the wheels and no space heat at all.
Unless the cogenerator is very inefficient or the building is very well-insulated (by today's standards), the electricity production will often exceed demand. If you just turn it into heat, you've used a lot of hardware to do the job of a flame.
Cogeneration can produce "something from nothing". Suppose your alternatives are a 95%-efficient furnace or a cogenerator which yields 30% as electricity, 65% as heat and 5% losses. You can run 1/3 of the electric output through a heat pump with a CoP of 3 and have the same 95% of the fuel's energy as space heat, plus you have 20% of the fuel's energy as electricity.
If the developing solid-oxide fuel cell technology can be turned to domestic use, cogenerator efficiency could hit 50%. A therm of gas could create 1/2 therm of heat, plus 14.64 kWh of electricity. 14.64 kWh of electricity into heat pumps achieving 3:1 (far from the best available) would produce another 1.5 therms of heat; the system would effectively double the gas supply. Or you could settle for making up the balance of 1 therm of heat and putting 9.76 kWh of electricity into a PHEV. At 200 Wh/mi, you'd get close to 50 miles out of that energy. That would displace roughly a gallon (115,000 BTU, or more than 1 therm) of liquid motor fuel even in a Prius.
No, there is no magic in this. Energy is conserved, and the efficiency figures have been demonstrated. All it does is refuse to give in to entropy too easily.
Seems to me you're not seeing the whole picture.