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DIYer on December 22, 2007 - 7:43pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

We got the borers something awful in central Texas. They don't seem to have such a short season here. I tried the Bt method but apparently just don't have a feel for how to do it. Or the bottle of Bt I bought was no good. Sometimes we can get a few fruit off of them before the borers kill 'em off though.
Trombocino squash

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fleam on December 22, 2007 - 9:15pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

i just did a little reading on the local "coyote gourd" or more commonly known "buffalo gourd" and the seeds are edible, and the stuff's a weed here. I think I'm going to snag a few next time I drive by a local patch of them and plant the seeds around our lower lying land here ..... the gourd is basically poisonous, but makes a decent soap if you have no other, the seeds can be roasted and eaten, and the dried gourds can be used to make things. And, you can do stuff with the root - get starch or brew white lightning lol.

The seeds, the way the stuff grows so well with no attention, and the way the dried gourds can be made into things, are enough reasons for me.

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DIYer on December 23, 2007 - 2:10am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

You mean this cucurb. It's one of my favorite native plants here in central Texas.

And probably also the natural reservoir of those ^%$&$%%! squash borer moths.

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fleam on December 23, 2007 - 1:48pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Thanks for the link to the borer, what an interesting looking bug! If I didn't know it's a moth, it'd fool me into not messing with it, since it does look like a wasp. But looking closer, it doesn't have a thin waist, and it has "tail feathers" instead of a sting.

I'm going to be on the lookout for those and "frass" on coyote gourd plants to see if they're around here.

I've never seen anyone consciously grow the coyote gourd around here, it just grows here and there as a weed. And it does well when everything else is struggling.

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DIYer on December 23, 2007 - 10:17pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I haven't actually noticed any damage on the buffalo gourd plants I've examined. It just seems that the borers find our cultivated squash so quickly there must be some natural source of them. I think the wild gourds are quite resistant to that sort of attack -- non-hollow stems for example. And being poisonous probably helps.

The tuberous root of the buffalo gourd allows it to survive a hot dry spell long after most of the other non-succulent plants have died or gone into diapause.

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Nate Hagens on December 22, 2007 - 10:12pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Growing those might not be a bad non-agricultural post peak business, given lack of other petroleum based items and our cultural addiction to more

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