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32 comments on Post peak Italy: Naples submerged by waste

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Chris Vernon on January 8, 2008 - 7:19am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Certainly. As Ugoi says:

Is the ongoing disaster in Naples related to peak oil? Not directly, of course. The question of waste in Naples is a long story that would need entire books to be told.

I think it’s interesting to see how mundane yet vital systems like waste disposal can collapse. Peak oil will likely result in a series of system collapses so it’s good to take a glimpse at what collapse looks like, even if the direct causes vary.

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Dryki on January 8, 2008 - 6:52pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

It's related in at least a couple of ways. There's the Tainter connection - the hierarchy required by the society is fueled by energy. And there's the entropy connection - where the trash is low entropy being converted to heat. Resource depletion and sink depletion. Both resources and sinks are capital outside the standard economy. If one thinks back to Hall's diagram posted on Momma TOD a few days ago, this could represent a form of triage, where some services are simply abandoned.

That seems far fetched. At first. What's happening is the people on the ground are protesting because there are not enough resources to go around.

cfm in Gray, ME

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