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can I have the date of when peak oil really sets in? tell me who wins the World Series that year too...or I suppose we won't have baseball then because they usually play at night. can we play baseball during the day?
the market is pricing in Peak oil right about now with high prices and people are starting to become interested in alternatives. global warming is also a concern. every time oil goes up I always hear how solar stocks go up. why is that? GM went down the other day when they announced the Volt would be put off for a little bit.
Solar power not only generates electricity during peak generation demand, it generates electricity on site during peak transmission demand. All blackouts due to high demand have occured during summer air conditioning peak, to date.
Avoiding the cost of the blackouts would have paid for the solar generation grids in places like Michigan, Ohio, New York, etc. Not just in California. It gets hot in the summer in the northeast, too.
We could have had solar power for free just by avoiding the costs of the blackouts.
On the issue of blackouts and solar; Grid-tie Solar will go down with the grid as the technical standards are currently written in the US. Grid-tie solar will help with the additional load on the grid during peak summer daytime demand. But will not function with the loss of the grid.
If you go solar grid-tie, at least go with a grid-tie w/battery back-up, then in-house solar can still function during the daylight even if the grid fails.
Some folks, out west, that install a pure grid-tie play will be disappointed that their AC will go down with the grid even if the sun is overhead.
FYI.
Grid-tied-solar if large remote solar arrays has the same failure mechanism as the grid.
That is not the result of the Feed-in Tariff. These are true economic lifeboats. They can easily operate decoupled from the grid to provide power at the point of need.
It is true that grid tie systems have to shut down in the case of an outage. This is to protect people working on the lines. But, it is not hard to include a switch that physically disconnects from the grid and allows stand-alone operation. You want to be sure you don't have loads that produce transients larger that the capacity of the array or that equipment could be damaged.
Chris
Amazingly, yes. In fact, an older friend of mine tells me she used to run over to Forbes Field after school to watch baseball. They would let people in free after the fifth inning. She was at Game 7 of the 1960 World Series, and saw Maz hit his walkoff homer.
Yup, believe it or not, the World Series was played during the day. And they let people in free after the halfway point.
The Yankees used to ride the train for three days when they played at St. Louis. Many of those players think that helped the team bond. They say planes have ruined baseball.
Leanan, Mazeroski's home run wasn't 'walk-off'. The Pirates finished batting in the bottom of the eighth and the Yankees went down in order in the top of the ninth. However, Joe Carter's home run in the bottom of the ninth in the 1993 World Series was 'walk-off' because it ended the game.
Bill Mazeroski's World Series Walk-off Home Run
Hello Leanan,
The best part of the story was how the 13 year old traded the ball back for two cases of beer--I bet his parents didn't find out about this deal until the brewskis were long gone! :0
Yes John we understand:
Capital is God, and The Free Market is the chosen path.
I read Ayn Rand when I was 16 also. Boy is Ayn Rand cool then!
You are a hero for being a complete azzhole!
Is that cool or what?
Ha! - I had a friend fairly recently read Rand for first time (he's in his 30's) - and he was all excited about her and her ideas, wanted to talk all about her, he wasn't very happy when I had the same response "yeah, read her when I was in 10th grade, thought she was a big deal with cool ideas, since I've figured out she was pretty much a nasty combo of libertarian and fascist"
it really amazes me that the "free market" has become as much of a religion as it has - despite the working model of hybrid socialist countries like those of Europe (esp. the Scandinavian countries)
besides, most of the calls for a "free market" seem to me just demands for no taxes on various corporations (or subsidies for them) - hardly a free market (as if such a beast could exist)
I've figured out she was pretty much a nasty combo of libertarian and fascist"
Libertarian National Socialist Green Party
http://www.nazi.org/
How can anyone be a Libertarian Socialist (let alone a Libertarian National Socialist) - isn't that a contradiction in terms ?
The Green part I can understand, even if Green generally tends to mean the "lower left" corner of the political quadrant nowadays - ecofascism seems to have a long tradition in Europe. But they definitely need to quit calling themselves Libertarians.
As for combining free market rhetoric with fascist ideas, I think thats called "neoconservatism" nowadays - its not really about free markets, its about power and control...
If you eat big macs everyday for lunch and dinner, and your doctor tells you you need to stop or you will have a heart attack, are you going to insist he provide you with the date you will actually have the heart attack before you stop eating them?
Brilliant, and quoted!