Todd,

Well said,and I believe a very accurate assessment of reality. Those of us who are sufficiently alarmed by the magnitude of what is happening hopefully will follow your lead.

Henry

Great statement, a doomer declaration of independence!

100% Todd, 100%

It was not a governmental entity and solution that brought this country into reality.

It was backwoodsmen, Tennessee and Kentucky squirrel hunters and sharpshooters and others of North and South Carolina(or was to be). Men who had hacked a living out of the wilderness and were not going to 'give it up' to some King of a far off country and his redcoats.

It wasn't the 'tories' who knelt to the King either.

Thats who made this country. Independent men who had the will to fight and die for independence and their backwoods farms. Without them and theirs Washington didn't have a chance.

Militiamen, civilian soldiers,hunters and all the rest who weren't sitting on their buttocks in the cities sipping tea and chewing crumpets.
For a source? Read about the Battle of Kings Mountain for instance.
It wasn't fought by bureaucrats and their ilk.

airdale-you get what you can and then you defend it or some carpetbagger steals it

PS. My great great grandfather fought in the War of 1812 and received a land grant.On a portion of that land ,my home town is built on.

I don't understand why you find my statement amazing. I too have basically lost trust in major institutions, hence my push for more local control from people I can relate with directly and have greater trust in and hold accountable. How is that much different that what your position is?

There is a huge distinction between what I would like to happen versus what I think will happen. I would like nation-states to cooperate, enact Oil Depletion Protocols, avoid wars, agree on a fair and rapid means to lower carbon dioxide emissions to 350 ppm, etc. As long as nation states still exist, none of these are possible without some kind of political engagement with the big system. Creating a homestead in the hills and bonding with neighbors is fine, but if enough coal plants get built most life is snuffed out on the planet anyway.

I have a near total doomer mind set as well, but I could be wrong about some things and don't find it a very meaningful life to give up on the rest of the world completely because that means I have given up on the future completely. I do understand lifeboat ethics and think that hospice and triage are the primary health care issues of the future, but an attitude of near total isolation leads to bitterness and anger that turns people off. I struggle with these emotions myself and find it very difficult to be "positive" about much at all, so I think we have a lot in common.

You perhaps just find me naive and a Johnny-come-lately? I have heard that before and usually find that attitude from people who have never met me or had a real conversation with me. Don't believe what you read in the press, and understand that most people are complex and conflicted and given the ways of the world that is to be expected.