. . . Shell estimates that after 2015 supplies of easy-to-access oil and gas will no longer keep up with demand. . .

Our (Khebab/Brown) middle case is that combined net exports by the top five net exporters (Saudi Arabia, Russia, Norway, Iran & the UAE) will be down by close to 50% by 2015, from the 2005 level. Or, to put it another way, our middle case is that it would take all of the top five net exports in 2015 to meet current US import demand.

BTW, China has stopped, at least temporarily, coal exports. Bloomberg is reporting that Russian oil exports will be down by 9% in February. And both China and Russia are working to curtail food exports. Then we had Iran curtailing gas exports to Turkey, resulting in Turkey curtailing gas exports to Greece, resulting in Greece curtails gas exports to?

The common theme is that food and energy exporters are going to take care of the home team first.

If one reads that quoted line carefully, one will notice that he is referring to combined oil and gas production. It may well be that oil production won't be able to "keep up with demand" at a much sooner date (if that date hasn't already passed). And, there's no mention of the export problem which you have so clearly shown to be important in many posts.

From an economic point of view, demand can never exceed supply over time. The "market" will respond with increasing prices for the commodity in shortfall, until demand and supply will balance. Of course, that is theory and surely leaves some folks out in the cold who would like their demand satisfied. If one thinks a bit further about this statement, when supply can no longer "keep up" with demand, that implies a rather large increase in price, limited only by the cost of the available alternatives, including FF sources that are difficult to obtain. Since the cost of the alternatives tends to increase along with the market price of energy, it's likely that we will be due for some rather large increases in energy costs, as well as major disruptions of all sorts. I think the many reports we are presently seeing about global energy shortages is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. None of this is new to those of us who frequent TOD.

Keep moving, keep growing, nothing to see here, no need to PANIC, Everything's Under Control.

E. Swanson

The only way I can read "scramble," or the "mountainous desert race" is as a euphemism for resource wars. That has been the way that mankind has traditionally resolved the allocation of scarce and vital resources. "Excitement" and "fierce competition" sound an awful lot like "Saving Private Ryan" or "The Thin Red Line." At least there is some acknowledgement in the industry that the alternatives to cooperation is the Great War for Oil.

Resource wars? Aren't those situations where one nation invades and conquers another nation with known resources? Sort of like Saddam in Kuwait? Sort of like Japan attacking Pearl Harbor as a prelude to the march toward Indonesia's oil fields? Like Hitler invading the Balkens to get the oil fields, then attacking Russia for the same reason. Looks to me like war's not the alternative, it's been the plan for a long time.

As for "Excitement" and "fierce competition", think of the after effects of a bunch of nuclear blasts delivered to select Third World Mega cities. It would give a whole new meaning to the "Survivor" programs, with camera crews dressed in lead suits catching every round of the tooth and claw fight for survival. There's more than one way for "Demand Destruction" to occur.

Of course, our conquest of Iran had absolutely nothing (Bush Co. said), NOTHING, to do with oil, got that? :<(

E. Swanson

Like the US in Iraq - Noticed you missed that one - How could you miss the obvious?

Woops! A typo in the last line, should have been Iraq, not Iran.

I thought you were reporting from the future so I figured Iran was what you actually meant.

I thought he was talking about 1952, when the US and GB overthrew a democratic government in Iran and replaced it with a dictatorship, so their oil companies could regain control of Iran's oil supplies. Isn't it interesting how the US and British press never mention this when discussing the current frictions?

Resource wars for the last of a resource considered vital (which will appreciate, year on year, with certainty) are an entirely different level of conflict than speculative wars over future profit.

It's the difference between "If we succeed, we could become rich" and "If we fail, we are certain to starve." The latter has all the power of the status quo behind it.

From an economic point of view, demand can never exceed supply over time.

So, from an economic point of view, there is only demand for 75,000 Super Bowl tickets since that how many are available.

Which proves I still can't get my mind around economics.

In the super bowl case, the elasticity of supply is zero. That doesn't occur too often in the real world.

That's because sports teams are deeply ingrained in our culture as well as our tax system (and exempted from monopoly restrictions), and there are substantial auxiliary profits to be had in allowing fans to see the occasional game.

Even though the supply elasticity is zero, that wouldn't itself invalidate the laws of supply and demand. The owners would have an incentive to maximize their profit by jacking the prices up until they have slightly less than 75000 tickets.

But they allow things like waiting lists and lotteries for tickets instead (and punish scalpers), because those represent commitments to keep watching the game (which costs them nothing), keep voting to build new stadiums on taxpayer dollars, keep buying Packers jerseys and hats, keep trying to get seats at the nearly empty certain-loss games in midseason with nothing on the line, and in general support the team until your death. If the stadium seats for the Superbowl were strictly a narrow for-profit operation, they would be auctioned in order to maximize profit, essentially.

From an economic point of view, demand perfectly balances supply... as long as price is free to fluctuate.

If price is fixed too low then demand can easily exceed supply.... at the too low price.

If price is fixed too high then demand can easily be lower than supply ... at the too high price.

Well "demand" doesn't just mean "want" or "desire".
Demand is the want or desire to possess a good or service with the necessary goods, services, or financial instruments necessary to make a legal transaction for those goods or services.

Except that governments won't allow the market to go out of control with prices like that. Pricing regulation and rationing will be introduced, you'll get your certificate each month that will permit you to buy a certain amount of oil..... This is what governments do in economic disasters and war time, infact some governments have had to do that to keep a war economy functioning. Governments will want to ensure that oil remains affordable.

If Iran invaded Turkey from the rear, would Greece help?

Turkey & Greece are members of NATO.

I think that was an anal sex joke.

Members they are indeed...however reluctant and at odds with each other!

If this was 1990 or earlier, Greece would probably invade Turkey (as would Syria and the Kurds would revolt too), resulting in a huge war. Nowadays I think it is very improbable, due to EU membership, high revenues from tourism that would be lost for many years due to war, improving trade etc.

PS. I am from Greece.

[whoosh]

double [whoosh]!!! LOL!!!

/shakes head and just walks to the other corner of the room with wry smile on his face...

Perhaps there should be a /humour in there somewhere to alert non-english speakers?

Only if everyone finds it humorous.

Well, there's jokes and then there's bad jokes, but sometimes even bad jokes are kinda funny.

Turkey historicaly has very bad relations with almost all of its neighbours, and for many years has an ongoing guerilla war with the Kurds. It is widely thought that if Turkey went into a big war with any of its neighbours the rest of them would intervene. In fact PKK tried to stimulate this, and had talks with Syrian, Persians and Greeks for that purpose. Btw, we are way off topic here!

Hi Costas,

I appreciate hearing firsthand accounts and perspectives. Hopefully, humanity will make every effort to bring peace to our troubled times, and avoid resource wars as we face fossil fuel decline.

Here are some groups making the effort:

http://www.combatantsforpeace.org/

http://www.oildepletionprotocol.org/

Aniya,

i only noticed lately that you found all question marks on a link i provided. that was because you didn't select the proper font for display -- that's in Chinese. anyway, here is a link for the English version:

http://www.terrorism.com/documents/TRC-Analysis/unrestricted.pdf

Blea

If not Greece and Turkey then how about Chile?

Either way China will be needed.

But what will Delaware?

That's easy: a New Jersey.

I'm not so sure. That's not what Arkansas. I think that's what she said, I'll go back and Alaska.

Where will Mary Land ?

Shell estimates that after 2015 supplies of easy-to-access oil and gas will no longer keep up with demand.

Peak Oil. We are the frog in a pot of cool water placed on a fire. Subprime is just a symptom of being incrementally cooked; the incremental increase of commute costs and house payments until more and more people cannot afford both.

Bail-outs and tax stimuli toss ice in the water but throw currency stability on the fire.

We might cool the fire or get out of the pot by changing the lifeblood of our economy from oil to ingenuity. This requires innovation. Current costs will be attacked by innovators if power generation and transportation are de-monopolized.

The Internet is a great example of innovation following de-monopolization of communications. Germany's solar success is an example of innovation following de-monopolization of power generation.

Shell made the statement that easy oil will be gone by 2015 in the Professional Engineer magazine, (The UK's Institute of Mechanical Engineers bi-weekly publication), almost a year ago. Thus the leaked, message is not as radical a development from Shells public position, as it may at first appear. The publicising of their alternative scenarios is the new part.
I spent the day at one of the two leading petrochem industry pump vendors today. They are currently working on six brine
injection pumps for Saudi Aramco, each driven by 18MW electric motors, with a 300barg casing rating. ie. the head generated must be almost 3000m, and the flowrates anything up to 1500m3/hr or if you prefer 225,000bpd per pump, 6 pump total equivalent 1.35mbpd. Quite what fraction of that injected brine flowrate emerges back as oil I don't know, it would seem to be a serious capacity edition... or maybe, its just to make up for rising water fractions, to maintain oil flow. ...

Hi Jeffrey,

Thankfully, we have the analysis of the ELM-team.

re: "top five exporters". Just to help fill in the picture, what approximate percentage of world total do theses five represent? (Or, is there some better way to place this is context?)

re: For example, "Or, to put it another way, our middle case is that it would take all of the top five net exports in 2015 to meet current US import demand."

This would leave the remaining (?) percent of the current exporters to meet demand for the rest of the world. (Or would there be any remaining exporters by that time?)

re: Is there an ELM for NG? Or, is it assumed that the situation has too many variables and/or limited possible export distances?

Hi Aniya,
I am not Jeffrey, but I wanted the answer to the same question you had. Here is the data from the EIA:

The top 10 exporters provide 32mbpd out of roughly 44 total exports. Almost all of the top 10 are in decline, with only 4 with any chance of increase, and 3 of those are in the top 5 (russia, saudi, UAE). With only algeria in the second 5. The second 5 includes mexico (done by 2014). All in all it looks pretty bad.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.htm

For natural gas, I would look at the ASPO 2007 presentation by David Hughes at the ASPO USA site. As Canada is our only real export supplier of any quantity, you can see ELM hard at work growing to consume the Canadian supply. And he projects the shortfall we in the US are likely to see. He also casts doubt on the forecast that Canadian coal bed methane will make up for conventional shortfalls.

Wind back a couple of posts to see Euan's take on how LNG supplies will not even meet Europe's planned need, much less the US. Personally, natural gas shortage is my real fear. I like walking. I hate freezing.

The top five account for about half of world net oil exports, and I think that we are seeing ELM effects for food and NG exporters.

The EB referenced a Weekend WSJ article on one guy's Peak Oil preparations. It's up on the WSJ website, behind a paywall.

In a World Short Of Oil, Provisions Must Be Made
Mr. Wissner of Middleville
Stocks Up on Rice, Gold;
No Faith in a 'Techno Fix'
By NEIL KING JR.
January 26, 2008

MIDDLEVILLE, Mich. . . . Aaron Wissner, a Grand Rapids, Mich., middle-school computer instructor, is part of a growing community of so-called peakniks, who are convinced that peak oil production is nigh and that there will be difficult consequences.

Mr. Wissner has had more than a few fretful nights since he became "peak-oil aware," as he calls it, about 30 months ago. In embracing the theory that the world's oil production is about to peak, Mr. Wissner has tossed himself into a movement that is gaining thousands of adherents, egged on by soaring oil prices, the rarity of big new oil finds and writings on the Internet. . .

. . . In the dining room, their son gurgled and cooed as Ms. Sager spooned baby food into his open mouth. "We're not there yet," she said. "It's easy to forget that growing your own food is a lot of work."

FYI I got to the article via Google News, it was the second link in a search for "peak oil".

I thought the article made Aaron out to be a little on the obsessed side. Easy to do if you take someone who just woke up to the peak oil story and looked around his snow-covered yard at the lack of a community and said "What the hell am I going to do?!"

I've been paranoid for my whole life. Peak oil is just another segment in a fractured mind full of threats from crooked governments, ignorant masses, blind religions, and corporate killers. As my mom would say, "Whoop-dee-do, cool it with the dramatics."

The WSJ will try their darnedest to put the lid on peak oil until the major shareholders can sell their stakes to the minor shareholders and to foreigners. All they need is another big dip (not too big--watch the timing on those cuts, Helicopter Ben) so they can sell on the dead cat bounce, and then they head for Paraguay with The Family.

"We're all freakin' DOOMED!!" -The Mogambo

The end of the stock market isn't the end of the world. -- me

Read this CEO's memo as:

"Shell scrambles to assert legitimacy and retain market share in the face of growing competition, ludicrous profits, laughable investment, and an imminent peak in conventional world oil supplies..."

IMO he is a rat and a liar. As his vision for the future he floats the Carbon Capture raft. Carbon capture does not address the issue of dwindling and unreliable supply nor does it deal with the obvious issue of carbon emission from liquid fuels used for transportation.

For Shell to survive long-term they will need to invest in energies that are outside of traditional fossil fuels. Something this small minded exec seems to have happily overlooked.

Maybe he will show 'proactive vision' in his later statements. For my part, I won't hold my breath. This is little more than corporate damage control.

Shell owns 1 GW of wind turbines AFAIK.

Alan

Cheers Alan and thanks! Though I think it's great that Shell has invested in 1 GW of wind power -- which is certainly a substantial amount -- I'm still disheartened that the company is leading with a fossil fuel focused agenda.

Looking at the above memo, most of the lip service is given to carbon capture. If Shell is looking to be progressive and truly address the problems we are facing it must at least support, by clear policy statements, a mix of energy sources.

For example:

"Shell has invested heavily in wind and other alternatives. We are laying out a blueprint to funnel 30 percent in the near future and 50 percent within five years of all new development investment into alternative energy sources such as wind, solar, and biofuels. Shell already has a strong interest in wind energy and we will continue to strengthen our position in this promising new area. Furthermore, we are asking government to aid us, through subsidies and incentives, in all alternative investment, in retrofitting existing coal plants and building all new coal plants on the new carbon capture model. We feel that these solutions will help us better address the imminent peaking in world oil supplies which we project to be near the year 2015 ..."