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"eastern planing area" that would be like....................uh,....florida ?
re: open gom to drilling
Why wait around and save any oil in the GOM for future generations? Lets use it all now. We need to invade Venesuela, keep our SUVs full, keep the 18 wheelers on the move to Swell Marts, continue commuting 140 miles to our jobs that pay peanuts (or cashews if you are lucky), and continue BAU.
Since the kids of today are getting fine educations, insured by government testing, they will be lots smarter than we are and will easily find alternative fuel sources that us dimwits have yet to think of.
Once every last drop of oil in the US and its territorial waters are used then we can invade other countries for their oil...In certainty that we have no more and therefore, no choice but to take theirs. Why should we let those pesky natives sit on our oil and use it foolishly?
This is a no-brainer and will fit nicely with the rest of the current administrations agenda.
I guess it is fashionable that people keep saying "the current administration" like it is really different from previous administrations. Like anyone so far has actually done anything to address the energy problems, or any of the other problems we face. In 1948 US written policy was established which was echoed by Jimmy Carter. "We will use force to maintain oil supplies from the middle east". Other than a couple of wackos like those of us who frequent sites like this, the US public does not want us to change. As prices increase, they will en mass DEMAND that we drill in the eastern GOM, off the Atlantic coast, off the Pacific coast, in ANWR, and anywhere else oil or gas might be.
In 1999 a poll in the San Francisco bay area found that only 23% of the respondents were in favor of nuclear power to increase electricity generation. Three months later, same poll, same geographic area, 57% were in favor. Why? Because they were then two months into the blackouts. When it is your ox thats being gored your attitudes will change. I think it was Charles Colson, Nixon's "hatchet man", who said " When you got em by the balls their hearts and minds will follow." Personally, I don't see anyone running today who will address these issues either. We are on the downward slope, and I'm not talking about Hubbert's curve.
ESPECIALLY the rich liberals in the SF area do not want to cut back. They'll never give up their high-end Volvos, their illegal-immigrant nannies, their exotic foods imported from all over the globe. Tahiti Water, a brand of bottled water imported from Tahiti, is the type of product they like. The more exotic and more traveled a foodstuff, the more they like it. They're very good at talking about others cutting back, but the reaction to the idea that they should lead the way by cutting back is uniform horror.
Jeez, Fleam, do you think you could have worked a few more stereotypes in there?
It's Fiji water, btw, and it is everywhere in the US I've been. What makes you think it is more popular with people from SF, or with liberals, than anyone else?
It's Fiji water, more popular with people
At $5 a bottle in the theater - it better be damn good water.
I guess that might be the point. In so many ways, the "current administration" started with FDR at the latest -- some might extend that back to Teddy Roosevelt.
For better or worse, each administration has dovetailed into the previous, and the American public has for the most part accepted the supposed fact that the world was an American oyster. The premises on which this worldview was based have begun to seem a little thin. I personally think the evolution is quite exciting, and filled with promise. There remains the possibility that things will spiral into chaos or even nuclear disaster -- I believe not. Cooler heads will ultimately prevail, now as in the past.
You know, I felt like the Clinton administration showed that it didn't matter who the president was. And then, we got GW Bush. It matters.
Amen. It matters who the President is.
For many years the state of Florida has fought offshore oil exploration/drilling. There are agreements with the feds and laws to prevent it, however there is no doubt in my mind that when shortages start to appear there will be a move to explore for energy resources off the Florida coast, even among those in Florida, because there are millions of people who want to drive everywhere, public transit is a joke, they will want the oil produced. Especially if the drilling is only on the gulf coast side, the state government is always in one budget crises or another big checks from big oil will start to look good, they will be able to keep building up the road networks and all that goes with big projects. Also those who live inland and those on the Atlantic coast will be enticed by the all mighty dollar and will toss the gulf coasters under the bus for tax rebates and dividend checks.
That is if there is oil etc. and if there are enough rigs and people to develop these resources,