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"So let me get this straight... You *know* a *guy*."
Terry Benedict, Ocean's 11
Sorry, couldn't resist...
Life must be so placid and calm on Planet Forbes.
Ah, good old neoclassical economics. "Higher prices lead to higher supply... what... higher prices haven't led to higher supply? Um... well... interest rates.... hedge funds? I dunno. Somethin'. Supply will jump! Honest! Hey, look at this beautiful bridge, you know that's for sale? Just one dollar, I tell ya."
You forget,under this administration life has been very very good for the "Forbes" crowd.My guess is ,with the Monoline crisis,and other financial woes,things will be changing soon,and not for the better.
Hell hath no fury like a bunch of FWOs beating the Guayan country side in search of the likes of the fleeing 'Forbes Crowd'. Their biggest problem is that they are stuck on this planet, which they devestated, with us...No amount of dollars will solve that little problem.
FBI Director guarantees securitized mortgage fraud prosecution
FBI Director Robert Mueller on Thursday said the agency was committed to investigating and prosecuting companies involved in mortgage fraud and other violations in connection with home loans made to risky borrowers.
The bureau on Tuesday disclosed it was working with the Securities and Exchange Commission to investigate 14 unidentified companies, from mortgage lenders to investment banks, for possible accounting fraud, insider trading or other issues connected to subprime mortgage lending.
The FBI allocated substantial manpower and resources to address the Saving and Loan crisis in the early 1990s and corporate fraud earlier this decade and Mueller said he was prepared to do the same to address fraudulent lenders.
The FBI is looking into the practices of so-called subprime lenders, as well as potential accounting fraud committed by financial firms that hold these loans on their books or securitize them and sell them to other investors.
http://argusobserver.com/articles/2008/02/01/news/doc47a386cbdfdbe259929...
. . . "an oil industry expert we have known for years". . .
He who shall not be named?
Daniel Yergin Day: July 13, 2006
http://www.energybulletin.net/18111.html
That's what I'm calling Yergin from now on. "He who shall not be named."
lol, good one. You guys are a tonic.
dont they keep recycling the same lines ? above ground factors,political upheaval,not enough investment,and last but not least those damn tree huggers.
Ah, didn't you mean 'he whose name should not be spoken?' Now you're in for it, WestTexas. Dementors and Sidhe will both come a knockin.
As a less known author of fantasy (and oil science fiction), I couldn't resist.
Best wishes to all!
http://www.energybulletin.net/36930.html
Published on 8 Nov 2007 by Energy Bulletin. Archived on 8 Nov 2007.
Young Daniel Yergin as peak oil activist (book review)
by Eugene Duran
I first learned about Peak Oil several years ago and have spent much time investigating the accuracy of our energy problems. The more you learn the worse it gets. I came across a book at a flea market entitled Energy Future: Report of the Energy Project at the Harvard Business School, edited by Robert Stobaugh and Daniel Yergin. At first I put it back due to Daniel Yergin’s position on Peak Oil. About a year later I returned and found the book still there. I bought it for 50 cents.
While I have not read every page I feel it is important to review this book now that we are where we are with regards to energy.
Energy Future is an astounding book. The following is a list of the chapters.
1. The End of Easy Oil
2. After the Peak: The Threat of Imported Oil
3. Natural Gas: How to Slice A Shrinking Pie
4. Coal: Constrained Abundance
5. The Nuclear Stalemate
6. Conservation: The Key Energy Source
7. Solar America
8. Conclusion: Towards a Balance Energy Program
9. Appendix: Limits to models
[snip]
Yergin, it seems, was NOT naive. He has been well-paid for his services and has had a good life.
Hi stiv,
Interesting find. Scary to contemplate.
Right, it's those damn hedge funds again. (Referring to the above link: The Petrodollar Bubble Pump.)
The price of oil is up because of hedge funds. The price of corn is up because of hedge funds. Ditto for wheat and every other commodity that is up. But sooner or later all those hedge funds must unload their positions. After all, it is the front month contract that sets the pace. And that contract in oil expires every month. If hedge funds are causing the problem by buying up oil futures contracts, then they must unload those contracts, or roll them over, at or near expiration. Either way that would have the opposite effect. The expiring contract would, on expiration day, plunge.
It is a zero sum game. If buying huge numbers of contracts would cause the price to rise, then selling huge numbers of contracts would cause the price to drop. And it does not matter if you roll them over. That would cause the expiring contract to plunge while causing the next months contract to spike. We have seen no such plunge and and rise in contracts at or near expiration.
Remember, the buying or selling can only have an effect on the price at the moment of transaction. Simply holding a long or short contract has no effect on the market whatsoever.
All this being said, it defies all economic principles as we were taught in economics 101. If commodity prices are driven up artificially then we should see a flood of those commodities hit the market, driving prices right back down. That has not happened. Agricultural prices keep rising despite rising.
This article says we planted more corn last year than any year since WW2 and predicts prices to plummet as a result. Guess what, corn prices are now at an all time high. Prices did drop during the summer but then shot right back up setting new records in December and another record in January.
And because each acre produced so much more corn than it did in 1944, we produced last year, by far, more corn than ever before. And still prices kept rising. Damn hedge funds. ;-)
Ron Patterson
Ron, always a pleasure to read someone like-minded. I guess you won't be safely death.
If Hedge funds have so much power, the stock market should be just going up indefinitely. Same thing applies to housing. Should have thought of that. Then we could avoid all this sturm and drang over the coming recession.
I'm sick to death of all the hedge fund propaganda. What is this, the result of Saudi public relations dollars? The hedge funds wouldn't be hedging if there wasn't a reason to hedge. In other words, why buy oil if the supply situation wouldn't otherwise make it a good bet that oil prices would rise.
Cart before horse...
So, the producers have been driving up prices by buying their own oil at an ever-increasing prices?
Brilliant idea! I wonder why no one has thought of it before.
lol, well put
You can always count on Forbes for laughs.
Forbes, from November, 2004:
Digital Rules
Capitalism's Amazing Resilience
Rich Karlgaard, 11.01.04, 12:00 AM ET
Excerpt:
That is why the excuse is now that NOCs are responsible for high oil prices. They interfere with the capitalist utopia that we are all striving for and rescue Yergin from looking like a complete idiot. Humanity will go down fighting ideological battles instead of dealing with reality.
Yeah.. I was channelling two cartoons as I read this one..
One is a couple rocks, deep underground, with a few drops of oil still clinging to them, comparing daytrading advice, where their conclusion is not to fess up any more of their oil until the price is better.
The other one... 'Imagine you had a nickel for every time you imagined the NOC's had a can-opener..' explains why most of my bumper-stickers are dismal failures. My wife is a very patient woman.
Bob