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john15 on February 3, 2008 - 12:40pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Disruptive? no, profitable and growing much faster than thought.

GE Growing Their Green Side
http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/03/ge-growing-their-green-side/

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DIYer on February 3, 2008 - 2:42pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

GE Energy also said yesterday it’s investing in wind farm projects owned by Horizon Wind Energy LLC, a Houston-based developer that is a subsidiary of Energias de Portugal SA. The wind farms are in Illinois, Minnesota, Oregon and Texas.

As I was trying to say, I'm in favor of local, personal, home-owned renewables but regard megaprojects with faint praise. Generous Electric has been free to build windmills since the 1970's but in that time they have mostly built large gas turbines. Their primary market is big utilities and not individuals.

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john15 on February 3, 2008 - 3:11pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

"As I was trying to say, I'm in favor of local, personal, home-owned renewables but regard megaprojects with faint praise."

why? scale is what we need and the companies like GE can deliver that. who do you think uses the power, martians? we use it. wind power hasn't seen much investment because energy prices were low. now they aren't and the magic of the magical thinking market.

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DIYer on February 3, 2008 - 8:39pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

When GE starts making these, you can get back to me on how green they are.

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jokuhl on February 3, 2008 - 9:14pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

DIYer;
It sounds like you know what to do. Do what you can to get the monkey off your back, and get set up with at least SOME of your own generation.

Getting a bit of PV and Solar Heating onto MANY private rooftops is a form of Scaling Renewables that might be invisible to John in his tunnel vision, but the Yergins and the Raymonds don't stand to profit much if you're able to go to yourself as a 'Swing Producer of last resort', and they are not going to work to convince us to get there.

Let John keep paying the big guys he loves so much. You can pay yourself first.

Bob

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