The contents below are paid advertisements. Their appearance does not imply an endorsement by The Oil Drum.
“The infrastructure of suburbia can be described as the greatest misallocation of resources in the history of the world.”
—JH Kunstler
Search The Oil Drum with Google
User login
Contact
- Content: editors at theoildrum dot com
- Tech support: support at theoildrum dot com
Personnel
- Editors: Prof. Goose, Heading Out, Stuart Staniford, Nate Hagens
- DrumBeat Editor: Leanan
- Contributors: ace, Engineer-Poet, Gail the Actuary, jeffvail, JoulesBurn, Khebab, Robert Rapier
- TOD:Local: Glenn
- TOD:Europe: Chris Vernon, Euan Mearns, Francois Cellier, Jerome a Paris, Luís de Sousa, Rembrandt, Rune Likvern, Ugo Bardi
- TOD:Canada: benk, Libelle
- TOD:ANZ: Big Gav, Phil Hart, aeldric
- Technician: Super G
Recently on TOD:World
TOD:Local
- Summer Streets a Success!
- Plan for Hydro-Fracture Drilling for Unconventional Natural Gas in Upstate New York
- Enjoying Life Close to Home: Fun Streets
TOD:Europe
- Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae bailout: Guess Who Wins
- UK Energy Flow Chart 2007
- Brown pretends to be tough on Russia
TOD:Canada
- Compressed Air Energy Storage - How viable is it?
- Oil Megaproject Update (July 2008)
- Weekend Energy Listening: Wind Power with Paul Gipe
TOD:ANZ
Peak Oil Primers
Blogroll
Energy Sites
- The Coming Global Oil Crisis
- Die Off
- Dry Dipstick
- Energy Bulletin
- From the Wilderness
- Life After the Oil Crash
- Peak Oil Crisis
- Peak Oil News and Message Boards
- Powerswitch
- Rigzone
- Matthew Simmons
- Wolf at the Door
Environment & Sustainability Sites
- The Daily Green
- EcoGeek
- Eco Street
- Green Car Congress
- Green Options
- green.alltop.com
- Gristmill
- RealClimate
- Sustainablog
- Treehugger
- WorldChanging
Blogs
- The Big Picture
- Casaubon's Book
- Cleantech Blog
- Clusterf
k Nation (Jim Kunstler) - The Cost of Energy
- Ecological Economics
- David Strahan
- Econbrowser
- The Energy Blog
- Entropy Production
- Environmental Economics
- European Tribune
- GraphOilology
- jeffvail.net
- The Mess That Greenspan Made
- Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis
- Mobjectivist
- Peak Energy (Australia)
- Peak Energy (USA)
- R-Squared
- Resource Insights
Organizations
License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.






GAIA Host Collective
The same thing is happening among my neighbors.
Dmitri Orlov describes something similar during the breakdown of the Soviet Union--solutions springing from the bottom, rather than imposed from the top.
Look at this cool site the State of Minnesota put together to help people plan for disasters. It lists disaster by type and helps you put together survival kits.
http://www.codeready.org/getinformed.cfm
I saw Matt Simmons speak before the MN Legislature. One point that he made was that we don't really know the minimum operating level of our fuel system. In a panic situation it could go dry very quickly. That has prompted me to start a long term food storage plan.
Dried foods in combination with a water purification system are ideal in many ways. TVP (Textured Vegetable Protein,) if stored correctly, has a shelf life of dozens of years, and in my opinion, isn't all that bad. I keep a large supply of it on hand and use in my day to day cooking. If you use this stuff in Hamburger Helper or similar, you don't notice as much that you're not using real ground beef but a vegetable protein.
~Durandal (http://www.wtdwtshtf.com)
According to Tainter, the top will be cut off from the bottom due to collapse of the complex interactions of empire. Solutions arising from the bottom historically are pretty brutal -- that would appear to be the case in the Former Soviet Union -- though the only thing I know about that is what I read. The 13th - 15th centuries in Europe seem to have been characterized by the kind of banditry we associate with failure of central governments.
The population of North America supposedly lived in a peaceful Eden, undisturbed for millennia, until the Europeans arrived. Seems unlikely. Is something like that actually possible?
I forsee interesting challenges ahead.
There needs to be both. Survival efforts in the FSU were just that, and many didn't. You have better models in Cuba and Venezuela. Whatever complaints you might have about these gov'ts, they have both have tried hard to prevent the worst. The complaints against Cuba are that it hasn't succeeded in providing much more that a minimum material existence. But its accomplishments in health and education are considerable.
A hostile gov't will defeat the efforts of even the most skillful survivalists -- if nothing else, they'll tax and repossess your little tract in the woods. But getting together with neighbors is certainly a very good idea no matter what.