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Here in the US, like a lot of places, we are suffering from from a massive debt financed "investment" in consumption, and the general trend in political circles is to discuss various ways of encouraging ongoing consumption, and to tax energy producers.
Hello Euan & WT,
"Very difficult to sell this to the electorate I know."
Yep, the investment in ongoing consumption, as opposed to conservation, is the crux of the matter IMO. Thus my constant harping that widespread Peak Outreach Programs, to provide full public saturation and acknowlegement of the challenges ahead, is the best path forward to POP the MPP bubble and promote paradigm shift.
The funds required to get everyone up to speed would be miniscule in comparison to the funding required for the new postPeak infrastructure, yet the offset savings to the fast reduction of obstructionist BAU, NIMBYism, Denial, and potential violence would be huge.
Of course, this is just my speculation.
Bob Shaw in Phx,Az Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?
Jeffrey - the US more than anywhere else would benefit from significantly higher taxes on gasoline - as you are well aware. This would reduce consumption (to EU per capita levels?), raise tax revenues, lower the trade deficit, help balance your books, improve energy security, lower CO2 emissions, elevate your countries image abroad and delay an energy crisis.
But the fact is that average Americans place the right to drive a gas guzzler to the mall above all these benefits. If this were not so then Hillary and Barack and John would all be promoting this higher fuel tax policy.
Euan:
Good grief! It's running out, remember. How can maximizing exploration and production be the path to energy security?
Tax the heck out of both consumers and producers, I say. If there are purposes for which fossil fuels are rather difficult to replace, you want to conserve production for many decades hence. That means keeping producers on a very short leash and not listening to special pleading from oil interests.
In the long run, the oil and gas industry is headed toward serving niche applications only (or extinction). I think it would be wise to keep that in mind now.
Do you think higher taxation will have any affect on the economy? I think it would send inflation on an afterburner climb to a flame-out.
Isn't taxation now, mostly what the market can bear?
IMO, all higher taxation will do is open the gates to economic hell a lot wider.
Lowering taxation would probably have a wild effect too, akin to an injection of speed. The trouble is after the initial high, another injection is needed or the low can debilitate.
Tax the heck out of oil and gas production and consumption (coal too). I'm not saying we generally raise taxes across the board. In fact, it might make sense to lower income tax rates and raise taxes on non-renewable forms of energy so that the overall level of taxation remained the same.
You just described what the provincial government of British Columbia has proposed, and they intend to start this year.
The ball is rolling.
You tax fuel, you tax everything! Even several times over.
Transport
Services
Tourism
Manufacturing
Food, production, wholesale and retail.
Commuters
And so on. I'm sure you can think of many more.
If you raise taxes severely on fuel, be prepared for the probable immediate consequences.