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133 comments on Obama's New "Big Oil" Ad: Does He Have It Right or Wrong?

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Davidyson on March 30, 2008 - 3:05pm

Gosh, tomc, open your eyes and get over your ideological blockade.

Wright: How does Wright relate to your grandparent's fighting in WWII? Did you watch Obama's speech on race and religion? How much more candid and grown-up and reasonable can you get as a politician than Obama?

And didn't you see McCain's "bomb, bomb, bomb - bomb, bomb Iran" "funny" episode (amongst others)? This guy is out of his mind. Being a war hero alone does not make you presidentiable - you must have gut, wits and some experience with the (current) real world.

"Obama only plays a person of reconciliation."

Yes? How do you know? Because otherwise he would be too good to not vote for him and you would have to swap sides? I haven't seen the slightest shred of evidence that he is not pretty much exactly what he claims to be - which is very different from both McCain and Clinton, who both are not only pragmatic, but opportunistic.

"However, he is a demagogue. And they *never* bring peace. They always bring war."

Well, like the duo infernale Bush/Cheney? Can't you see any positive difference between Obama and them?

"Especially since energy reductions would be so very invasive into people's personal lives. I *really* don't like how greens "want to modify everyone's way of doing things". That sounds a LOT like "the government's going to say how you spend your free time"."

Well, funny, we Europeans consume about half the energy Americans do - and have at least the same standard of living (some would say a better one, because of much more civil, less inequal societies, walkable cities, less violence, better social services etc.).
And while many Americans regards European governments as almost "socialist", our societies enjoy a degree of personal freedom, security and cohesion that is in fact unparalleled.

Maybe you should start looking beyond your own navel and study how the rest of the world lives?

Cheers,

Davidyson

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moonstroller on March 30, 2008 - 5:52pm

I understand that Europeans are running out of jail space also these days.

Granted, Europe has a more laid back societal lifestyle, but, if they would shoulder their cost of the burden in dealing with terrorism they might not stack up so well, probably would have to build some jails too.

In fact, maybe they should build their own missile shield. We already have a partial shield called the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean.

Europe is shoulder to shoulder with Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, etc. Their only choices is to change their lifestyle to accommodate their neighbors or get wiped out.

The terrorist problem in Europe is far more explicit than in America.
If Europe looks down at their navel, they will probably find a bomb sitting there. Europe has nothing to brag about.

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Davidyson on March 31, 2008 - 2:26am

You are trolling, right?

Jails: The proportion of people in European jails to the rest of the population is far, far lower than in the US. If you have a jail for one person and get another criminal, you are running out of space.

Missile shield: What for do we need a non-functional, easily outmanoevered missile shield? You are out of touch with reality.

Terror: Every year, about 100,000 people are dying in traffic in Europe. As desastrous as terror is for the public psyche, the number of casualties is almost infinitessimally small in comparison.
Many American's fear of terror and the simultaneous preparedness to inflict terror on other people (latest showing: Iraq, 100,000-900,000 dead, millions of refugees) is totally out of proportion.

The best recipes against terror are peaceful relations with other countries and a good police system.

Cheers,

Davidyson