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168 comments on DrumBeat: April 19, 2008

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weatherman on April 19, 2008 - 5:35pm

There is no reason why we should suffer for their failure to keep their reproduction to sensable levels. Out food resources wouls break under the strain.

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jokuhl on April 19, 2008 - 5:51pm

They're just doing what they can...

They know it takes many dozens of them to match the consumption of any ONE of us. What is the reason that they should suffer for our failure to keep our consumption to sensible levels?

Not to forget that you're making a blanket statement about the reproduction choices of the population between Nigeria and Bangladesh.

Damn, you almost sound American with such rubbish!

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ccpo on April 20, 2008 - 2:16am

But it's OK for developed countries to use virtually all of the energy resources (US: <5% of population, but uses >20% of all the energy) and to waste enough food to feed millions?

Jesus, I hope you are banned soon.

Jeers

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pondlife on April 20, 2008 - 4:26am

Well I doubt Weatherman is Jesus, but I agree with his thoughts.

Humans love to tie arguments together, especially if it avoids dealing with them properly. The developed world uses too much. Thats a problem. The undeveloped world breeds too much. Thats a problem.

You cannot excuse one because of the other.

Both are caused by lack of government.

Which is the unstabilised, exponential problem?

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MarkIX on April 20, 2008 - 5:38am

Both are caused by lack of government.

Yes because every day I hear a government spokesman telling people to stop consuming to benefit the economy and to stop breeding to save national resources..... Oh wait no I don't!

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ccpo on April 20, 2008 - 9:59am

Anyone who blames the current food crisis on the poor is __________. (< fill in your own adjective.)

This isn't even worth discussing. There is, at present, the ability to feed the world. There is, at present, not enough willingness to do so. While total numbers will be a problem, they are not the problem now. This is obvious and it is inarguable.

I have no patience for those who blame victims.

Color me disgusted.

Cheers