I have seen people predicting that a shutdown of the Gulf Stream would give us a climate like Newfoundland or Siberia. They seem to asume it would be like Newfoundland and Siberia in the pre greenhouse world. In fact isn't Siberia hotting up quite a bit? Hence the melting bogs. Perhaps while the rest of the world heats up a shutdown would leave Northern Europe with a climate similar to the pre greenhouse norm.

Most of the world isn't showing damning, significant proof of GW one way or the other, in terms of average temperatures. The Arctic Circle, on the other hand... has exceeded all reasonably detailed models for the last few years, killing polarbears, melting permafrost, and opening up the Northwest Passage for the first time in historical memory. Things are not just at record highs, they're at landscape-changing highs - the Magnetic North Pole reaching *room temperature* in a summer heat wave. If the frightening regional temperature trendlines continue, we won't have a summertime Arctic ice pack to speak of in a decade, and Greenland's glaciers will be affecting water levels much, much sooner than people expected. Here's to hoping it's some freak abberation.

The fact that we don't really have any idea WTF is going to happen, but that a CO2 canopy's directly measurable effects are pretty clearly going to do *something* heat-related, is as scary to scientists as it is comforting to pro-corporate interests. Can raw, justifiable FUD ever coalesce into action when pitted against moneyed interests? We shall see.