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Dan is a good man, and he should also be focusing on the reality that soon we won't have hospitals. When the power grid goes out, so do hospitals. Dan is aware of this.
Maybe it will be mostly intermittent problems. If the outages are for not too long, and enough diesel fuel is around, back-up generators can solve the problem temporarily.
If we have bigger problems than that, then you are right, it would be very difficult to have what we now think of as a hospital. I wonder what is happening to the hospitals around the world, where there is currently load shedding now.
The day will come when there is no power and no hospitals as we know them, but some medical people will be among the survivors. What I am suggesting is preserving technology. Penicillin and other antibiotics are not hard to make --- IF YOU KNOW HOW, and most medical people have no idea of how to do it. By only concentrating on the next phase of the catastrophe means you won't preserve technology. Suddenly, there will be no national communications -- permanently. I know how to make penicillin, do the nurses and doctors in the thousand of hospitals in the U.S.? I have a copies of "Where there is No Doctor" and "Where there is NO Dentist" -- this book is very useful for doctors and dentists. Do the hospitals have copies? How many medical people will have such stuff when the grid goes out for the last time. As soon as there is some emergency, all of the copies of all of these good books will disappear overnight. Time to plan ahead. Time to get a comprehensive risk management plan for what lies ahead. That is what educated public servants are suppose to do, and which the poor uneducated masses have no idea of.
The number of bacteria that are still susceptible to plain penicillin have been tremendously reduced since its introduction. It might make you feel better to know how to make penicillin, but I suspect its efficacy might be substantially less than you hope for.
When one has an intestinal infection, very common where I live in Mexico, and nothing else works, some cillan will work. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, what you say holds for nasty hospital infections, but most of the same old antibiotics work for intestinal and most infections here in Mexico for many years, like chloromycetin for intestinal infections. And this is something the medical professions can work on, versus the latest pharmaceutical innovation on how to keep someone who is dying of xyz alive for 10 more minutes.
Do you recommend a book for home-making penicillin? It should out-line quantities and the minimum refinement steps, and how to determine dosage and length of time for medicating and the strength of the penicillin. It should also talk about side effects, possible reactions, and other pitfalls that could occur such as breathing in the spores or contaminations.
Thanks, Ben
This site shows a fermentation process to make small quantities of penicillin. It doesn't address the problem of starting with a suitable penicillin strain or how to deal with the problem of foaming due to corn steep. Also make sure you have plenty of lactose on hand and don't forget the freeze dryer. Not as easy as making beer by any walk of the imagination.
http://eschatonmanagement.blogspot.com/2007/05/how-to-make-penicillin-ch...
And here's a pretty good history of its development. This shows how difficult making penicillin really was. Fleming who discovered it was unable to figure out how to extract and purify the penicillin. The penicillin was very unstable and freeze drying was the method used to obtain larger quantities. The first usage by the Oxford team showed very promising results, but the subject died 3 days after they ran out of their limited supplies.
http://acswebcontent.acs.org/landmarks/landmarks/penicillin/penicillin.h...
Be sure to flip through all the pages on this latter site if this subject interests you.
Sorry, I just moved to the state of Veracruz, Mexico, and my books are still in boxes. In exactly month, June 11th, try searching: surviving peak oil and peak oil preparations. This is the name of a blog I am working on and it will have the penicillin info and many good books listed. If that doesn't work, email me then: clifford dot wirth at yahoo dot com
I'm not an expert, but plain penicillin may be quite useful in the future. There is generally some cost in robustness for an organism to adapt to anything, which is why most germs were NOT penicillin-resistant prior to WWII even though penicillin had evolved maybe a hundred million or more years ago (wild guess). Because the organisms using it were rare. By the same token, once most humans don't have it, regular strains of germs may get the upper hand over the so-called "supergerms" for the same reason they were more robust in the past. Stuff like MRSA is only "super" in the context of pervasive human antibiotic use, it's probably of lower efficiency than it was before to "buy" this adaptation.
The decentralization of medicine may not bode that well for "supergerms" and if few people have antibiotics, regular penicillin may well become quite useful again. It's a constant evolutionary tit-for-tat and microorganisms show it very directly due to their fast reproductive rate....
Indeed, it was recently found that some old "basic" antibiotics are useful against MRSA now... since they haven't been used much.
In nature, antibiotics are useful DUE TO BEING RARE, whether in bread mold, frog slime, etc. It is not energetically worth a germ's evolving to exploit the niche since it would pay a bigger cost in some other way. We know this is true because bread mold, frog skin, and all the other natural antibiotics still work after millions of years. They probably are periodically overwhelmed by bacteria if the owner gets too populous, and conserved within the organism's genome for later.
It's all about evolution.
ymmv
Pinealone, the good news about antibiotic resistance is that it is usually temporary, not permenant. If al penicillin derivatives were withdrawn from a medical community for 1 year, the suscetibility to penicillin would skyrocket. Many bacteria would eject the plasmid containing the penicillinase gene as it would no longer convey a competitive advantage, and simply consume energy (on a cellular level) transcribing into proteins. Thus, resistance is lost (until the use of penicillin resumes as a therapeutic intervention).
:O You're a fungus that can type?!?!
Seriously tho, peak antibiotics arguably may be a bigger problem than peak oil. Another reason to shitcan hospitals: they're a factory for the selection of multiply antibiotic resistant bacteria.
Peak antibiotics
I'm surprised this issue is so far under the radar screen of most people and the media. In the 50's, 60's and 70's we came out with all sorts of entirely new classes of antiobiotics. The generally entered into broad use and were highly efficacious (generally bacteriocidal). In the last two decades, there have only been a few new antiobiotic classes. These drugs are often bacteriostatic rather than bacteriocidal, are incredibly expensive and are typically very narrow in scope. Even the old trick of barely modifying an existing antibiotic is drying up bc/ more recent ones have not fared well. Gatifloxicin (tequin) was pulled from the market 2 years ago, and another fluoroquinolone was pulled back in 2000 or 2001 (can't remember the name).
It is, and always has been, the "Age of Bacteria." Human ingenuity will never keep pace with selection operating over generation times of 20 - 30 minutes. We have been "blessed" (by what don't ask me) to have existed during the extremely narrow window of human history in which oil has been cheap & antibiotics actually worked.
I wonder about all the antibacterial soaps that are being used now days. And all of the antibiotics used on animals. It does not seem like they will help the usefulness of the antibiotics we have.
Me too, this obsession with antiseptic everything is crazy. Why does one need to sanitize the toilet bowl? No one that I know of, except the pets, drinks from the toilet. Why sanitize the shower? Does someone expect that germs are going to rise up and strangle them while taking a shower? Maybe the film PSYCHO had something to do with it. Do people sanitize the floors so their shoes don't get a cold? And air sanitizers and sprays are crazy and a waste of energy.
This does raise two important questions though:
1) Is the best strategy to avoid getting infected and needing antibiotics in the first place?
2) If so, what strategies does one employ to minimize one's risks of becoming infected?
I'd guess that most people would say that the answer to the first question is "yes". "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". If antibiotics become hugely expensive and rare, then an ounce of prevention might become worth a ton of cure.
So, that takes us to infection prevention strategies. I'm out of my league here, so I'll have to yield to others more knowledgeable than myself. I do tend to share cjwirth's scepticism toward the "sanitize everything" chemical warfare approach. It is almost certainly unsustainable, as antibacterial chemicals will become increasingly scarce and expensive along with everything else. Also, I believe that there is a school of thought to the effect that such an approach is actually counterproductive - that what we really need to do is to build up our natural resistance to germs that are ubiquitous in our environment, and that minimizing the exposure of our immune systems to these germs only causes the immune system to weaken.
There is also a school of thought that hospitals (and maybe medical care facilities generally) are actually iatrogenic - that they are breeding grounds for dangerous, antibiotic-resistant germs and pools of contagion. I am sure that any health care worker will confirm that extreme measures must be taken to prevent the health care workers themselves from becoming an unwitting vector for disease transmission; sometimes even those extreme measures are not enough.
Speaking of vectors, what can be worse than our modern system of transport, shuffling people, animals, foodstuffs, and other potential carriers of infection very quickly across the entire world?
Arguably, isolation and quarantine might remain the most effective and reliable tools to prevent the spread of infectious disease. That isn't something that most people want to hear, but it is true.
Given the above, might I suggest a few preliminary rules of thumb that might prove helpful for those that wish to minimize their risks of infection:
1) Stay put. The less travel one undertakes, the less likely one is to become exposed to an infectious agent not ubiquitous to one's local environment. Learn to be content with where you live, and arrange your affairs so you don't HAVE to travel.
2) Live in a small town or rural area. Large urban populations tend to be most susceptable to pandemics. Rub shoulders with fewer people and there is less chance of catching something from them. Small, isolated populations tend to eventually end up all sharing the same germ populations too, and build up natural immunity to those.
3) Avoid crowds. Don't attend mass spectator events, avoid shopping malls, etc. Try to establish oneself in a career where one works independently or in a small workplace instead of a large one.
4) Children are especially vulnerable to infectious diseases -- go to any cemetery more than 100 years old, and look for all the graves marked by very small headstones, or just rocks, it is a very sobering experience of the reality of childhood mortality due to infection. Many adults catch their illnesses from the kids that got them first. Large public schools are breeding grounds for infection. Transporting kids from a variety of distant neighborhoods and mixing them together only makes it that much worse. Home schooling or small neighborhood schools are preferable from an infection prevention perspective.
5) Try, if at all possible, to minimize the number of people that one must deal with personally - especially strangers and people from out of town. This presents a real challenge for people involved in sales and customer service; this might thus be another reason why, in a declining economy, these careers will literaly be "dying out". If you must interact with other people, try to keep your distance. Rural people are stereotyped and made fun of by city folks for standing far apart from other people and not facing them directly when speaking to them; there is actually unconscious, evolved folk wisdom in this practice - it reduces the risk of catching something from the person you are talking to.
6) WASH YOUR HANDS - FREQUENTLY! Fancy antibacterial soaps are not really necessary, plain soap and hot water will do if done frequently enough.
7) Try to be as healthy as possible. The stronger your general health, the better the human body is able to resist and to throw off infection. The Russians have a saying about the best friends of good health being fresh air, clean water and sunshine, and there is a lot of truth in that. One could add to that list: the consumption of a balanced and diverse diet of healthy (organic), whole foods in sufficient (but not excess) quantities; plenty of exercise and/or physical work, preferably outdoors; and a good night's sleep. Growing some of your own food is especially important; gardening in the local soil and eating what you grow will expose your body to the local population of germs and thus exercise and strengthen your immune system.
8) Avoid accidents & injuries. Anything which damages your body, even just a cut or a scrape, creates a potential opportunity for an infectious agent to gain a foothold. Equip yourself with the best possible safety equipment, exercise extreme caution in all that you do, and avoid undertaking any risky, hazardous activities unless absolutely necessary. Be equipped and prepared to administer effective first aid promptly for any type of injury that you do sustain.
9) Try to avoid the health care system, and especially hospitals, if possible. I say this not to demonize anyone in the health care system, but just to recognize the reality that one does risk exposing oneself to infection with each encounter with the health care system. Add to this the reality that a declining economy will be able to afford less health care, and it becomes obvious that we've all got to start now learning how to do with far less institutionalized health care than we've become accustomed to in the past. Learning to self-diagnose and self-treat is crucial; this won't eliminate 100% of your need for institutionalized health care, but it might cut it down substantially. If you must visit a health care facility, try to get an appointment for first thing in the morning - there will be fewer germs lingering in the air from other patients, and the health care workers will have interacted with fewer patients. Try to locate and utilize smaller facilities treating a smaller population of patients to further minimize your exposure. DO EVERYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN TO GET OUT OF THE HOSPITAL OR OTHER HEALTH CARE FACILITY AS QUICKLY AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN; the longer you stay there, the greater the risk of exposure. Advice #6 above becomes especially important - wash your hands extremely frequently while in the facility, and as soon as you have left. Also, NO VISITORS; I know this sounds like cruel advice, but why needlessly expose other people?
10) Be prepared to take more extreme measures during a pandemic. Have face masks stockpiled. Be prepared to seal oneself inside one's home and to have enough food, water, energy, medical supplies, and other essentials to ride it out for several weeks.
I am sure others can add to this list.
It might also be useful to rediscover World War II-era combat medicine, and the sulfa drugs. I remember making sulfa in undergrad organic chem lab. It was a quick one-step reaction: take a cooled solution of aniline (ArNH2) and add sulfonyl chloride. Get lots of yellow precipitate, and when you add enough SO2Cl, the precipitation stops, then you wash the sulfa with ether or hexane or something, and let it air dry, and you have the drug that saved millions of lives in WWII. I've got a bandage pack from WWII and it has a packet of sulfanilamide in it.
Allergic reactions are possible, apparently at a rate of 3% or so. HIV-pos people are allergic at a 60% rate, but if TSHTF, they're toast anyhow.
11) Considering adding the class of food now dubbed 'nutricuticals' to your diet.
Garlic, cinnimon, oregino, tumeric, various mushrooms,
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/03/980305053307.htm Has a good list.
http://www.fungi.com/mycomeds/info.html The fungi list
http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/
http://www.nutraingredients.com/
This site is a good wack-job jumping off point - if it might work in some way and exists in a MLM form - he pimps it.
http://www.nutrimedical.com/
(Example - hypes yeast in the gut. Yet here:
http://www.nutraingredients.com/news/ng.asp?n=85161-nestle-research-cent... )
Yes, and I've also heard that echinacea is good for building up your immune system - I don't know if there is any truth to that or if it is just an unsubstantiated claim. I've also seen claims that eating naturally lacto-fermented foods can be good for you. For example, I make my own yogurt, using a culture that has a blend of bugs, including several that are supposed to be good for digestion. Apparently establishing a good set of bugs in your gut will help in fighting off some of the bad bugs that you happen to ingest.
Eating a balanced diet including plenty of fruits & vegies (forget "try for five", instead think in terms of "tend towards ten") will give you a full compliment of vitamins, minerals, and maybe even stuff you need that science doesn't even know about yet.
fermented foods
This is one of the things I intend to spend more time on - learing how to ferment various foodstuffs.
You have the pickling (cukes, cabbage, et la)
You have yeast (bread) and yeast+bacteria (sourdough)
You have fungi - in fact the fungi processing of soybeans may be the only 'safe' form of the product
A whole lot of our food used to be 'pre-digested' via fermentation.
That would be trovan. The fact that it was pulled from the market meant that trovan pens saw a significant increase in value on Ebay.
I thought it had more to do with indiscriminate use of antibiotics where they weren't really needed.
Feeding them to livestock just to make them grow faster is one practice that needs to come to an end...
"Another reason to shitcan hospitals: they're a factory for the selection of multiply antibiotic resistant bacteria."
You might want to add feedlots to your list. I do not know if they are more important than hospitals for generating resistant bacteria, but they might be.
A good reason to eat meat from animals not treated with antibiotics (which in turn requires better treatment of animals, preferably pasture fed), if one must eat meat at all.
Thanks, cjwirth. I just ordered a copy of each of these at Amazon:
Where There is No Dentist
Where There is No Doctor
Where Women Have No Doctor
They are also available for download here:
http://www.hesperian.org/publications_download.php
-Andre'