Great line philgene, with that definition of Peak oil. "An inability for the production capacity of future oil resources to adequately make up for the shortfall of the existing declining oil supply on a world scale."
That's the best, most concise defintion I've read so far. Maybe if I force my wife to read it enough times it will sink into her overly optimistic viewpoint. The other day she said the price of oil was due to speculators, then it was we will avert any problems by switching to hybrid vehicles. I couldn't bring myself to explain why that won't solve peak oil. I've just run out of steam to convert her to a peak oiler. Instead I'm going to just act as an observer, almost like a naturalist in the Serengeti observing animal behavior, to delight when that light in her head finally blinks on with clear recognition.
"An inability for the production capacity of future oil resources to adequately make up for the shortfall of the existing declining oil supply on a world scale."
That's the best, most concise defintion I've read so far.
I agree, but it has one problem: the Avg. Joe can't maintain enough interest to parse a sentence that complex and, so, will not get the message. This is a problem we face in educating others. We need a simple way to make a clear point.
The problem of Peak Oil is not because "oil" is almost gone. Go outside and look at the road in front of your house. That black stuff? That's what passes for "oil" these days. Picture the old oil gushers. Now picture the road. Gusher. Road. How much more work and energy do you think it takes to turn tar into oil? How fast could you do it? That's much of the half of oil that's left. And that's why Peak Oil isn't about how much "oil" there is. It's about how fast we can get it out of the ground vs. how fast we are using it.
Hmmm... that needs some paring down...
The problem of Peak Oil isn't that "oil" is almost gone. Go outside and look at the road in front of your house. That black stuff? That's what passes for "oil" these days. Picture the old oil gushers. Now picture the road. Gusher. Road. That's the half of oil that's left. And that's why Peak Oil isn't about how much "oil" there is, it's about how fast we can get it out of the ground vs. how fast we are using it. And it's coming out the ground more slowly all the time.
Or...
"An inability for the production capacity of future oil resources to adequately make up for the shortfall of the existing declining oil supply on a world scale."
Peak Oil: we're using it faster than we can get it out of the ground, and we're getting less and less each year.
Or whatever.... anyone else got something short, sweet and understandable to the uninitiated without too much thought?
Peak Oil: we're using it faster than we can get it out of the ground, and we're getting less and less each year.
Average Joe: Yeah but thats just the greedy oil companys holding it back to push the price up in't it! (Usually delivered as a statement of fact)
Peak oiler: Um welll aaargh no not really....
Joe: There's plenty of oil they just want to rip us off. And the governemetn too . Look how much tax on petrol there is.
Peak Guy: Oil is actaully still pretty cheap considering the work it does
Joe: Cheap! (spluttering) How can call it cheap? It costs nearly a hundred bucks just fill the wifes Commodore. And the ute and the boat cost nearly two hundred just to go fisshing for a weekend. JUST FOR FISHING. How can can you call it cheap?
Discussing prices years ago with my dad (an oil patch veteran):
He understood depletion (like in his own wells) BUT NOT PEAK. What he understood was:
"obviously the Chinese are willing to outbid us on what's left".
Suddenly there was no more discussion as the light went on. I mean, I know that's unfair and all, but I think it's not worth trying to make people understand PO per se..
Great line philgene, with that definition of Peak oil. "An inability for the production capacity of future oil resources to adequately make up for the shortfall of the existing declining oil supply on a world scale."
That's the best, most concise defintion I've read so far. Maybe if I force my wife to read it enough times it will sink into her overly optimistic viewpoint. The other day she said the price of oil was due to speculators, then it was we will avert any problems by switching to hybrid vehicles. I couldn't bring myself to explain why that won't solve peak oil. I've just run out of steam to convert her to a peak oiler. Instead I'm going to just act as an observer, almost like a naturalist in the Serengeti observing animal behavior, to delight when that light in her head finally blinks on with clear recognition.
I agree, but it has one problem: the Avg. Joe can't maintain enough interest to parse a sentence that complex and, so, will not get the message. This is a problem we face in educating others. We need a simple way to make a clear point.
The problem of Peak Oil is not because "oil" is almost gone. Go outside and look at the road in front of your house. That black stuff? That's what passes for "oil" these days. Picture the old oil gushers. Now picture the road. Gusher. Road. How much more work and energy do you think it takes to turn tar into oil? How fast could you do it? That's much of the half of oil that's left. And that's why Peak Oil isn't about how much "oil" there is. It's about how fast we can get it out of the ground vs. how fast we are using it.
Hmmm... that needs some paring down...
The problem of Peak Oil isn't that "oil" is almost gone. Go outside and look at the road in front of your house. That black stuff? That's what passes for "oil" these days. Picture the old oil gushers. Now picture the road. Gusher. Road. That's the half of oil that's left. And that's why Peak Oil isn't about how much "oil" there is, it's about how fast we can get it out of the ground vs. how fast we are using it. And it's coming out the ground more slowly all the time.
Or...
Peak Oil: we're using it faster than we can get it out of the ground, and we're getting less and less each year.
Or whatever.... anyone else got something short, sweet and understandable to the uninitiated without too much thought?
Average Joe: Yeah but thats just the greedy oil companys holding it back to push the price up in't it! (Usually delivered as a statement of fact)
Peak oiler: Um welll aaargh no not really....
Joe: There's plenty of oil they just want to rip us off. And the governemetn too . Look how much tax on petrol there is.
Peak Guy: Oil is actaully still pretty cheap considering the work it does
Joe: Cheap! (spluttering) How can call it cheap? It costs nearly a hundred bucks just fill the wifes Commodore. And the ute and the boat cost nearly two hundred just to go fisshing for a weekend. JUST FOR FISHING. How can can you call it cheap?
And so on and so forth.....
(feel free to add to the converstation)
Don't forget, "Yes there are problems, but as the price rises we'll develop new technologies and it'll all be alright."
I've had people tell me in all seriousness that since Titan has hydrocarbon seas... :)
Discussing prices years ago with my dad (an oil patch veteran):
He understood depletion (like in his own wells) BUT NOT PEAK. What he understood was:
"obviously the Chinese are willing to outbid us on what's left".
Suddenly there was no more discussion as the light went on. I mean, I know that's unfair and all, but I think it's not worth trying to make people understand PO per se..