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What’s the deal with the “some new” tags under the story headers for the main TOD page? As someone who is stuck with slow dialup for my internet service - being in a very rural area - I only re-check stories if it is worth taking up valuable time for the page to load, let’s say twenty or more new posts.
SuperG discovered that those counters were sucking up an extraordinary amount of resources. There's ten stories on the front page, and every time someone accesses the front page, it has to search the database to produce the counts for each of those ten stories.
This will help the site run faster for everyone...including those on dial-up. If the number of comments is really that important, you can probably keep track of it yourself, either on paper or in your head. That's what I was doing yesterday, when SuperG turned off the "new comments" altogether on the front page for awhile.
I have noticed better initial load times and generally better overall performance.
Thanks SuperG!
Pete
Leanan, I don't know if it is practicable with the software on this sites, but a really nice feature on some is that you can press a 'Next New' button and go straight to that part of the thread.
Is this practical here?
Look for new] is the nearest I've managed...
... mine's the one with the 5 litre green petrol can.
Dave, you can do it here. Just click on "Edit" then "Find in This Page". Then in the "Find" box type in a bracket ([) then "new" exactly as it appears at the top of each new post.
You can do next new or previous new.
Thanks for the tip!
-But I am not finding the 'Edit' button other than on my comments - could you give me any more guidance? Thanks!
He probably means the browser's "edit" menu. Then, "find in page" or something like that in the menu should give you a box in which to enter the search text.
yeah, that works fine - I thought he meant in the Oil Drum menus! Cheers
ctrl + f = find...then search on [n....once you get to the new post, you will need to click your cursor in the text of the post and then click Next on the Find window.
I guess I'm the odd man out but I see not showing the number of new posts as negative. I understand slow dial up speeds - our landline was 2-4k until we went to a "high speed" wireless carrier with all of 20-40k.
Given the number of posts these days, I don't even take the time to look unless there a quite a few new posts. Granted, I could figure out how to use the edit stuff...but going through that takes time too...and I still wouldn't know how many posts were new.
Sorry, count me out.
Todd
I'm with Todd and Bruce from Chicago; even with broadband, I don't like scrolling through a lengthy series of posts for a handful of originals. And not all of us are techies capable of using the edit stuff without having to deal with an obnoxious learning curve.
Antoinetta III
Nothing 'techie' about it, Antoinetta - I just didn't think of using the browser to search.
In your browser, Internet Explorer or Firefox, go to the top left of the screen, and click on where it says 'Edit'
You will now get up a box in IE, or a bar at the bottom of the screen in Firefox, which will say 'Find in this page'
Type in [NEW] and bress the button.
You are there!
All you then need to do is press the 'Next' box to go to the next new.
Ye gods and little fishies. I didn't realize there were people searching for new posts by scrolling. Don't do that. Big waste of time. Use your browser's search function. Every browser has one. There's no learning curve at all, I promise. It's easy. And knowing how to do it will help you on your web travels everywhere, not just here. It works just like in your word-processing software. A monkey could do it.
Heck, that's why I prefer reading things on the web to reading things on paper. I miss the search function on paper.
I didn't realize there were people searching for new posts by scrolling.
On a bigger screen, the blue colorshift + scroll works for me.
Otherwise yes, using the browser search works fine.
Asking for all features to be done at the TOD server is like asking the feds to do things VS the citizens doing things.
I am for it. Perhaps I will now be able to access TOD on my BlackBerry. Before, it would always freeze up.
If you turn off javascript on your blackberry before accessing TOD, it should work.
Yes. I have Javascript turned off for TOD, too, or pages load very slowly and I get a ton of error messages. Basically, with Javascript blocked, all you lose is the ability to collapse subthreads. The site, IME, runs much better with Javascript blocked.
I will also add that searching for {new} flags works a lot better with Firefox than with IE. IE has that dopey popup window that blocks part of the screen. Firefox has a discreet box in the bottom of the window. You can leave it up all the time, and never blocks your view. Much more convenient.
I'd really rather not go to the "next new" button concept. I've found sites that use that are buggier than a picnic in July, and we have enough problems.
Scotty was right. The more complicated the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.
I note that the number of "new" messages is back.
Thanks to whomever. I hope it stays.
Todd
It's not back for me. The number of new posts displays once you're in the thread in question, but not on the front page.
I did, however, forward your complaint to SuperG.
Has the old paper on the design of Slashdot with the squid proxies in front and the database on the back end been looked at (in case the budget allows for many boxes)?
That would give a throughput boost with just config of proxies and tossing money VS actually profiling code and trying to redo code trees.
The editors are trying to appeal to us masses, the count is one, two, three, many!
About that article '200 Dollar Oil or 75 Dollar Oil', if oil were to slightly drop on current prices, or even remain steady, I would imagine that would have a negative effect on the Canadian market and possibly a steadying effect below the border? Any bets on how oil prices go this next year?
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